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I especially like the last one, and have not seen it better said.  Anyone who is receiving federal or state subsistence should not be allowed to vote.  There is a conflict of interest!
 


 
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Texan's answer to Welfare
 
AND While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

 

 

 

 


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Interesting....I have been doing a little, "Shopping" over here, trying to determine if it is worth the attempt to bring a vehicle back to the States, like it was back in the 1970s when I had no money.
 
The answer so far is,  German cars are cheaper here, than they are in the U.S.  It surprises me about the Swedish Saab; and I really question this article's purported  prices in Norway, Sweden and Germany.
 


 
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:12 AM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
http://www.saabsunited.com/2011/01/saab-9-5-price-comparison.html

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Dear Jonathan: In any economic system there are good and bad points.
Executive compensation, that has sometimes been at the expense of the
workers cranking out the products, should be based on what is fair,
not just who the supposed leaders of the corporations are. Wal-Mart
started out giving financial incentives to the managers of the stores,
until the wife of the founder insisted that workers would do a better
job, and stay on those jobs longer if there was a profit sharing
plan. A black janitor retired after forty or so years with the
company and had several million dollars in the bank. That sort of
fairness doesn't sound like socialism, now, does it.

I can't speak for Donald Trump, but in order to get quality labor for
building quality real estate properties—as he knows so well how to do—
the compensation needs to be tops. In the long run, everyone in the
employment hierarchy will benefit when fairness reigns for those at
the bottom or at the top. — John A. Armistead — Patriot.
>
On May 10, 11:59 am, Jonathan <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> Repeat after me: Donald Trump is a socialist. From a 2009 interview
> about whether there should be executive pay limits:
>
> Larry King: Is Obama right or wrong to go after these executives with
> salary caps?
>
> Donald Trump: Well, I think he's absolutely right. Billions of dollars
> is being given to banks and others. You know, once you start using
> taxpayer money, it's a whole new game. So I absolutely think he's right.
>
> That's socialism Einstein.
>
> On 05/09/2011 11:38 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Republican presidential contenders are gearing-up to fight-it-out for
> > the right to run against� �Obama� in 2012.  Every one of those should
> > be required to answer this question: �Is it FAIR to have hugely
> > expensive primaries spread over months, with the most �power� going to
> > the voters in the corn state of� Iowa?  Answer:  Hell NO!  Nor is it
> > FAIR to allow political parties to have any say-so, whatsoever,
> > regarding who the contenders can be, and how the country will be run
> > once the �winning party� has been decided.
>
> > Rep. Ron Paul, that sunken-cheek retread from the 2008 election, has
> > already raised a million dollars�probably earmarked for brown-nosing
> > the farmers of Iowa for a chance to become President.  Paul�s early
> > polling lead among the announced candidates has him positioned much as
> > he was four years ago.  The same anti-war, less-government crowd who
> > filled his coffers with hard cash, must still be impressed by his
> > unwavering positions on most issues.  When Paul withdrew in 2008, he
> > said, �Elections are over quickly.  Winning a revolution will take a
> > bit longer.�  But instead of leading a revolution, Paul settled back
> > into business as usual in our broken and corrupt, party-dominated
> > government.  Anyone so corrupted could never lead this country in the
> > new direction needed.
>
> > Judge Andrew Napolitano, filling in for a flagging Glenn Beck, asked a
> > guest this question: �Who among the possible Republican presidential
> > candidates do you think Barack Obama would LEAST like to run
> > against?�  The answer to that question isn�t as important as the fact
> > Napolitano is so matter-of-fact that Barack Obama will still be in
> > office, let alone be a candidate for President in 2012.  My above
> > average computer graphics experience leads me to conclude that both of
> > Obama�s purported birth certificates are bogus.  *** In a very public
> > and straightforward way, the US Secret Service should conduct a
> > definitive investigation of all �birther� issues, lest they continue
> > to �protect� a scoundrel who isn�t a bona fide President of the USA.
> > Napolitano shows his naivet� by recommending we vote for candidates
> > desiring smaller, lower cost Government who will support� the
> > Constitution.  Over the decades, the Constitution has been ritually
> > praised.  But that document was so WEAK that our government evolved
> > away from being the Representative Republic the Founding Fathers
> > surely wanted to mandate.  My New Constitution is strength (control
> > over what goes on in Washington) made manifest!
>
> > Donald Trump is being �tagged� a �birther� and a �racist� by Mort
> > Zuckerman�s NY news paper.  Liberals call it a conspiracy that anyone
> > would wish to apply the same level of technical facility to analyzing
> > two questionable birth certificates, as was used to assess the Shroud
> > of Turin, or the remains of King Tut.  The long form birth
> > certificate, which Obama released to the press, was a *.PDF file, not
> > a photocopy of an original.  That file was clearly LAYERS of PDF files
> > placed one over the other to form a composite, counterfeit
> > certificate.  Detractors of scientific reason, such as my own and the
> > hundreds of others like me, like to state that �The officials of the
> > State of Hawaii have confirmed that the birth certificate is real.�
> > Great!  (Gag, gag.)  Objective, concerned Americans are expected to
> > defer to the word of officials in perhaps THE most liberal state in
> > the union.  And only one corrupt official would be needed to unbind
> > and stitch-in a bogus certificate.
>
> > I found it most interesting that a supposed girlfriend of the daughter
> > of the Dr. Sinclair, who purportedly delivered Obama, recalled, ***
> > after half a century *** a dinner conversation like this: �What
> > interesting things have happened to you this week, Dr.�
>
> > �Oh, I gave birth to a kid named Barack Hussein Obama.  Isn�t that a
> > pretty name!  His mother is named Stanley, like I�m searching in my
> > family genealogy.�
>
> > That girlfriend then went on to say that she was �the last surviving
> > person who remembers Obama�s birth.�  Yeah, right.  And that aunt of
> > Obama who was at his birth in Kenya, must have had a� flawed memory.
> > And wasn�t a Kenya birth certificate shown to be fake?  Or� was a fake
> > birth certificate PLANTED to discredit those seeking the truth?
>
> > *** Donald Trump is�in my well-considered opinion�the most qualified
> > person to be President.  I view his being a government outsider as a
> > 200% advantage, because, as has been the case with Ron Paul, the
> > corruption of the rituals of Washington runs deep for those who�ve
> > been there too long.  Trump commented that his running as an
> > independent might actually help Obama by drawing votes from the�
> > Republican candidate.  But know this, Mr. Trump: When Obama�s birth
> > certificates and etc. are recognized as being fake, no candidate needs
> > to fear helping Obama win.  Political parties are UNCONSTITUTIONAL
> > under the present Constitution.  So, all primaries and runoffs should
> > rightfully be held on the dates spelled out in my New Constitution:
> > �The 3rd Tuesday in July, voters of all the states and territories
> > shall reduce the field of presidential candidates to 8, with the
> > incumbent Pres.&  VP to be included in such number, if applicable.
> > The 3rd Tuesday in October, voters shall reduce the field to four,
> > with the incumbent Pres. and VP not automatically included.  The 1st
> > Tuesday in November, each voter selects their 1st&  2nd choices�points
> > 4 and 3 respectively.  The President and Vice President Elect receive
> > the highest the 2nd highest total points.�
>
> > It�s obvious that few in the media, including at Fox News, want
> > Obama�s birth certificate to be shown to be fake.  Glenn Beck calls
> > the �birthers� a conspiracy.  And Beck discredits my calling Obama the
> > �Manchurian Candidate,� saying, simply, that isn�t so.  With
> > regularity, Beck talks about America needing� �manafacturing� (sic)
> > jobs.  And he says� �If they �would have� done that�� rather than
> > saying, correctly, if they HAD done that.�  Beck�s regularly making
> > grammatical errors like those, places his IQ at between 90 and 95�too
> > low to understand the figurative meaning in calling Obama the
> > Manchurian Candidate.
>
> > Those in the media, such as Britt Hume, Mort Zuckerman and Andrew
> > Napolitano, want to stampede the voters into believing there will be
> > business as usual in government.  Nothing would so �shake up� the
> > media and our corrupt two-party government as having overwhelming
> > acceptance that Obama is indeed a FORGER as well as a bribe-giver and
> > taker.  He did the latter things in arranging the endorsements of the
> > Clintons, and others, to allow him to become our� Manchurian Candidate
> > President.
>
> > The (White) House cleaning that this country so needs, should be the
> > end of business as usual in Washington, and the beginning of our
> > rebirth as a prosperous nation!
>
> > Respectfully submitted,
>
> > � John A. Armistead �  Patriot
>
> > AKA NoEinstein on Google�s sci.physics news group.
>
> --
>
>       Freedom is always illegal!
>
> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we
> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we
> have any possibility of being free.

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The 'Crown Prince of Terrorism'
Posted by Lew Rockwell on May 10, 2011 07:49 PM

Have they found their new bogeyman already?

xxx

Osama bin Laden son 'disappeared during compound raid'
Hamza bin Laden, the youngest son of Osama bin Laden, may have escaped capture during the Navy Seals raid that killed the al-Qaeda leader.
By Rob Crilly 4:44PM BST 10 May 2011

Pakistani security officials believe a member of the bin Laden household has disappeared since the raid, further deepening the confusion about who was killed.

It is understood that three of bin Laden's widows, currently in Pakistani custody, have told interrogators that one son has not been seen since the operation.

The fresh details raise fears that the al-Qaeda leader's youngest son and closest confidant, Hamza, may have escaped capture.

The White House initially claimed that Hamza, 20, had been killed at the house in Abbottabad, about 30 miles from Islamabad. Officials later said his 22-year-old brother Khalid had been killed instead.

On Tuesday night an intelligence source in Islamabad told The Daily Telegraph that shifting accounts of what had happened, coupled with the widows' testimony, left them unable to account for one person who they believe had been living at the house.

"We don't know if it was his son. Someone, one person may have been in the compound that we now cannot account for if - we believe what we are being told," he said.

Bin Laden, who was married five times, had as many as 24 children.

No-one knows for certain who was in the compound where bin Laden had lived, hidden in plain sight, for five years.

However, Hamza's mother is believed to be among the family members in Pakistani custody.

Hamza, thought to be the youngest of the Saudi-born warlord's sons, has been described as the "crown prince of terror". He featured on an extremist website to mark the third anniversary of the July 7 London bombings in which 52 people died. He read a poem called for "destruction" of America, Britain, France and Denmark.

Intelligence agencies believe he was being groomed as a possible future leader on al-Qaeda.

He was implicated in the assassination of moderate Pakistani leader Benazir Bhutto in 2007.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/8505249/Osama-bin-Laden-son-disappeared-during-compound-raid.html
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State or Private-Law Society
Monday, May 09, 2011
by Hans-Hermann Hoppe

[Speech given at the Mises Institute Brasil (2011). Photos and video are available here.]


The Problem of Social Order

Alone on his island, Robinson Crusoe can do whatever he pleases. For him, the question concerning rules of orderly human conduct ­ social cooperation ­ simply does not arise. This question can only arise once a second person, Friday, arrives on the island. Yet even then, the question remains largely irrelevant so long as no scarcity exists. Suppose the island is the Garden of Eden. All external goods are available in superabundance. They are "free goods," just as the air that we breathe is normally a "free" good. Whatever Crusoe does with these goods, his actions have no repercussions ­ neither with respect to his own future supply of such goods nor regarding the present or future supply of the same goods for Friday (and vice versa). Hence, it is impossible that a conflict concerning the use of such goods could arise between Crusoe and Friday. A conflict is possible only if goods are scarce; and only then is there a need to formulate rules that make orderly, conflict-free social cooperation possible.

In the Garden of Eden only two scarce goods exist: a person's physical body and its standing room. Crusoe and Friday each have only one body and can stand only at one place at a time. Hence, even in the Garden of Eden conflicts between Crusoe and Friday can arise: Crusoe and Friday cannot occupy the same standing room simultaneously without coming into physical conflict with each other. Accordingly, even in the Garden of Eden rules of orderly social conduct must exist ­ rules regarding the proper location and movement of human bodies. Outside the Garden of Eden, in the realm of all-around scarcity, there must be rules that regulate the use not only of personal bodies, but of everything scarce, such that all possible conflicts can be ruled out. This is the problem of social order.


The Solution: The Idea of Private Property

In the history of social and political thought, myriad proposals have been offered as solutions to the problem of social order, and this multitude of mutually incompatible proposals has contributed to the widespread belief that the search for a single "correct" solution is futile and illusory. Yet a correct solution does exist. There is no reason to succumb to moral relativism. Indeed, the solution to the problem of social order has been known for hundreds of years. The solution is the idea of private property.

Let me formulate the solution first for the special case represented by the Garden of Eden and subsequently for the general case represented by the real world of all-around scarcity.

In the Garden of Eden, the solution is provided by the simple rule stipulating that everyone may place or move his own body wherever he pleases, provided only that no one else is already standing there and occupying the same space.

Outside of the Garden of Eden, in the realm of all-around scarcity, the solution is provided by four logically interrelated rules:

  1. Every person is the private (exclusive) owner of his own physical body. Indeed, who else, if not Crusoe, should be the owner of Crusoe's body? Friday? Or Crusoe and Friday jointly? Yet that would not help avoid conflict. Rather, it would create conflict and make it permanent.
  2. Every person is the private owner of all nature-given goods that he has perceived as scarce and put to use by means of his body, before any other person. Again, who else, if not the first user, should be their owner? The second user? Or the first and the second user jointly? Yet such rulings again would be contrary to the very purpose of norms: of helping to avoid conflict, rather than to create it.
  3. Every person who, with the help of his body and his originally appropriated goods, produces new products thereby becomes the proper owner of these products, provided only that in the process of production he does not physically damage the goods owned by another person.
  4. Once a good has been first appropriated or produced, ownership in it can be acquired only by means of a voluntary, contractual transfer of its property title from a previous to a later owner.

I can spare myself here the task of providing a detailed ethical as well as economic justification of these rules. This has been done elsewhere. However, a few statements in this connection are in order.

Contrary to the frequently heard claim that the institution of private property is only a convention, it must be categorically stated: a convention serves a purpose, and it is something to which an alternative exists. The Latin alphabet, for instance, serves the purpose of written communication and there exists an alternative to it, the Cyrillic alphabet. That is why it is referred to as a convention.

What, however, is the purpose of action norms? If no interpersonal conflict existed -- that is: if, due to a prestabilized harmony of all interests, no situation ever arose in which two or more people want to use one and the same good in incompatible ways -- then no norms would be needed. It is the purpose of norms to help avoid otherwise unavoidable conflict. A norm that generates conflict rather than helping to avoid it is contrary to the very purpose of norms. It is a dysfunctional norm or a perversion.

With regard to the purpose of conflict avoidance, however, the institution of private property is definitely not just a convention, because no alternative to it exists. Only private (exclusive) property makes it possible that all otherwise unavoidable conflicts can be avoided. And only the principle of property acquisition through acts of original appropriation, performed by specific individuals at a specific time and location, makes it possible to avoid conflict from the beginning of mankind onward, because only the first appropriation of some previously unappropriated good can be conflict-free -- simply, because -- per definitionem -- no one else had any previous dealings with the good.


The Enforcement of Social Order and the Protection of Private Property: The State

As important as this insight is -- that the institution of private property, ultimately grounded in acts of original appropriation, is without alternative given the desideratum of conflict avoidance (peace) -- it is not sufficient to establish social order. For even if everyone knows how conflict can be avoided, it is still possible that people simply do not want to avoid conflict, because they expect to benefit from it at the expense of others.

In fact, as long as mankind is what it is, there will always exist murderers, robbers, thieves, thugs and con artists, i.e., people not acting in accordance with the above-mentioned rules. Hence, every social order, if it is to be successfully maintained, requires institutions and mechanisms designed to keep such rule breakers in check. How to accomplish this task, and by whom?

The standard reply to this question is to say that this task, i.e., the enforcement of law and order, is the first and primary duty -- indeed, the raison d'être -- of the state. In particular, this is the answer also given by classical liberals such as my own intellectual master, Ludwig von Mises. Whether or not this answer is correct depends on how "state" is defined.

The state, according to the standard definition, is not a regular, specialized firm. Rather, it is defined as an agency characterized by two unique, logically connected features. First, the state is an agency that exercises a territorial monopoly of ultimate decision making. That is, the state is the ultimate arbiter in every case of conflict, including conflicts involving itself. It allows no appeal above and beyond itself. Second, the state is an agency that exercises a territorial monopoly of taxation. That is, it is an agency that unilaterally fixes the price that private citizens must pay for the state's service as ultimate judge and enforcer of law and order.


The Fundamental Error of "Statism"

As widespread as the standard view regarding the necessity of the institution of a state as the provider of law and order is, it stands in clear contradiction to elementary economic and moral laws and principles.

First of all, among economists and philosophers two near-universally accepted propositions exist:

  1. Every "monopoly" is "bad" from the viewpoint of consumers. Monopoly is here understood in its classic meaning as an exclusive privilege granted to a single producer of a commodity or service, or as the absence of "free entry" into a particular line of production. Only one agency, A, may produce a given good or service, X. Such a monopoly is "bad" for consumers, because, shielded from potential new entrants into a given area of production, the price of the product will be higher and its quality lower than otherwise, under free competition.
  2. The production of law and order, i.e., of security, is the primary function of the state (as just defined). Security is here understood in the wide sense adopted in the American Declaration of Independence: as the protection of life, property, and the pursuit of happiness from domestic violence (crime) as well as external (foreign) aggression (war).

Both propositions are apparently incompatible with each other. This has rarely caused concern among philosophers and economists, however, and in so far as it has, the typical reaction has been one of taking exception to the first proposition rather than the second. Yet there exist fundamental theoretical reasons (and mountains of empirical evidence) that it is indeed the second proposition that is in error.

As a territorial monopolist of ultimate decision making and law enforcement, the state is not just like any other monopoly, such as a milk or a car monopoly that produces milk and cars of comparatively lower quality and higher prices. In contrast to all other monopolists, the state not only produces inferior goods, but "bads" (nongoods). In fact, it must first produce bads (such as taxes) before it can produce anything that might be considered a (inferior) good.
"As tax-funded monopolists of ultimate decision making, states can externalize the costs associated with aggressive behavior onto others."

If an agency is the ultimate judge in every case of conflict, then it is also judge in all conflicts involving itself. Consequently, instead of merely preventing and resolving conflict, a monopolist of ultimate decision making will also cause and provoke conflict in order to settle it to his own advantage. That is, if one can only appeal to the state for justice, justice will be perverted in the favor of the state, constitutions and supreme courts notwithstanding.

These constitutions and courts are state constitutions and courts, and whatever limitations on state action they may set or find are invariably decided by agents of the very same institution under consideration. Predictably, the definition of property and protection will be continually altered and the range of jurisdiction expanded to the state's advantage. The idea of some "given" eternal and immutable law that must be discovered will disappear and be replaced by the idea of law as legislation -- as arbitrary, state-made law.

Moreover, as ultimate judge the state is also a monopolist of taxation, i.e., it can unilaterally, without the consent of everyone affected, determine the price that its subjects must pay for the state's provision of (perverted) law. However, a tax-funded life-and-property protection agency is a contradiction in terms: an expropriating property protector. Motivated, as everyone is, by self-interest and the disutility of labor, but equipped with the unique power to tax, state agents will invariably strive to maximize expenditures on protection -- and almost all of a nation's wealth can conceivably be consumed by the cost of protection -- and at the same time to minimize the actual production of protection. The more money one can spend and the less one must work for it, the better off one will be.


The Error Compounded: The Democratic State

Apart from the fundamental error of statism generally, additional errors are involved in the special case of a democratic state. A detailed treatment of this subject has been provided elsewhere, but a brief mention is indicated.

The traditional, premodern state form is that of a (absolute) monarchy. Yet monarchy was faulted, in particular also by classical liberals, for being incompatible with the basic principle of "equality before the law." Monarchy instead rested on personal privilege. Thus, the critics of monarchy argued, the monarchical state had to be replaced by a democratic one. In opening participation and entry into state government to everyone on equal terms, not just to a hereditary class of nobles, it was thought that the principle of the equality of all before the law had been satisfied.

However, this democratic equality before the law is something entirely different from and incompatible with the idea of one universal law, equally applicable to everyone, everywhere, and at all times. In fact, the former objectionable schism and inequality of a higher law of kings versus a subordinate law of ordinary subjects is fully preserved under democracy in the separation of "public" versus "private" law and the supremacy of the former over the latter.

Under democracy, everyone is equal insofar as entry into government is open to all on equal terms. Everyone can become king, so to say, not only a privileged circle of people. Thus, in a democracy no personal privileges or privileged persons exist. However, functional privileges and privileged functions exist. Public officials, as long as they act in an official capacity, are governed and protected by public law and occupy thereby a privileged position vis-à-vis persons acting under the mere authority of private law.

In particular, public officials are permitted to finance or subsidize their own activities through taxes. That is, they do not, as every private-law subject must, earn their income through the production and subsequent sale of goods and services to voluntarily buying or not-buying consumers. Rather, as public officials, they are permitted to engage in, and live off, what in private dealings between private-law subjects is considered "theft" and "stolen loot." Thus, privilege and legal discrimination -- and the distinction between rulers and subjects -- will not disappear under democracy. To the contrary. Rather than being restricted to princes and nobles, under democracy, privileges will be available to all: everyone can engage in theft and live off stolen loot if only he becomes a public official.

Predictably, then, under democratic conditions the tendency of every monopoly of ultimate decision making to increase the price of justice and to lower its quality and substitute injustice for justice and is not diminished but aggravated. As hereditary monopolist, a king or prince regards the territory and people under his jurisdiction as his personal property and engages in the monopolistic exploitation of his "property."

Under democracy, monopoly and monopolistic exploitation do not disappear. Rather, what happens with democracy is this: instead of a prince and a nobility who regard the country as their private property, a temporary and interchangeable caretaker is put in monopolistic charge of the country. The caretaker does not own the country, but as long as he is in office he is permitted to use it to his and his protégés' advantage. He owns its current use ­ usufruct ­ but not its capital stock. This does not eliminate exploitation. To the contrary, it makes exploitation less calculating and carried out with little or no regard to the capital stock. Exploitation becomes shortsighted and capital consumption will be systematically promoted.


The Solution: Private-Law Society instead of State

If the state, and especially the democratic state, is demonstrably incapable of creating and maintaining social order; if, instead of helping avoid conflict, the state is the source of permanent conflict; and if, rather than assuring legal security and predictability, the state itself continuously generates insecurity and unpredictability through its legislation and replaces constant law with "flexible" and arbitrary whim, then inescapably the question as to the correct -- obviously, nonstatist -- solution to the problem of social order arises.

The solution is a private-law society, i.e., a society in which every individual and institution is subject to one and the same set of laws. No public law granting privileges to specific persons of functions (and no public property) exists in this society. There is only private law (and private property), equally applicable to each and everyone. No one is permitted to acquire property by any means other than through original appropriation, production, or voluntary exchange, and no one possesses a privilege to tax and expropriate. Moreover, in a private-law society no one is permitted to prohibit anyone else from using his property in order to enter any line of production he wishes and compete against whomever he pleases.

Specifically regarding the problem at hand: in a private-law society the production of security -- of law and order -- will be undertaken by freely financed individuals and agencies competing for a voluntarily paying (or not-paying) clientele, just as the production of all other goods and services.

It would be presumptuous to predict the precise shape and form of the security industry emerging within the framework of a private-law society. However, it is not difficult to predict a few central changes that would fundamentally -- and favorably -- distinguish a competitive security industry from the present, all-too-well-known statist production of (in)justice and (dis)order.

First, while in a complex society based on the division of labor self-defense will play only a secondary role (for reasons yet to be explained), it should be emphasized from the outset that in a private-law society everyone's right to defend oneself from aggression against one's person and property is entirely undisputed. In distinct contrast to the present, statist practice, which renders people increasingly unarmed and defenseless against aggressors, in a private-law society no restrictions on the private ownership of firearms and other weapons exist. Everyone's elementary right to engage in self-defense to protect his life and property against invaders would be sacrosanct, and as one knows from the experience of The Not So Wild, Wild West, as well as numerous recent empirical investigations into the relationship between the frequency of gun ownership and crime rates, more guns imply less crime.

Just as in today's complex economy we do not produce our own shoes, suits, and telephones, however, but partake in the advantages of the division of labor, so it is to be expected that we will also do so when it comes to production of security, especially the more property a person owns and the richer a society as a whole. Hence, most security services will without doubt be provided by specialized agencies competing for voluntarily paying clients: by various private police, insurance, and arbitration agencies.

If one wanted to summarize in one word the decisive difference and advantage of a competitive security industry as compared to the current statist practice, it would be this: contract. The state, as ultimate decision maker and judge, operates in a contractless legal vacuum. There exists no contract between the state and its citizens. It is not contractually fixed, what is actually owned by whom, and what, accordingly, is to be protected. It is not fixed, what service the state is to provide, what is to happen if the state fails in its duty, nor what the price is that the "customer" of such "service" must pay.

Rather, the state unilaterally fixes the rules of the game and can change them, per legislation, during the game. Obviously, such behavior is inconceivable for freely financed security providers. Just imagine a security provider, whether police, insurer, or arbitrator, whose offer consisted in something like this:

I will not contractually guarantee you anything. I will not tell you what specific things I will regard as your to-be-protected property, nor will I tell you what I oblige myself to do if, according to your opinion, I do not fulfill my service to you -- but in any case, I reserve the right to unilaterally determine the price that you must pay me for such undefined service.

Any such security provider would immediately disappear from the market due to a complete lack of customers. Each private, freely financed security producer instead must offer its prospective clients a contract. And these contracts must, in order to appear acceptable to voluntarily paying consumers, contain clear property descriptions as well as clearly defined mutual services and obligations. Moreover, each party to a contract, for the duration or until the fulfillment of the contract, would be bound by its terms and conditions; and every change of terms or conditions would require the unanimous consent of all parties concerned.

Specifically, in order to appear acceptable to security buyers, these contracts must contain provisions about what will be done in the case of a conflict or dispute between the protector or insurer and his own protected or insured clients as well as in the case of a conflict between different protectors or insurers and their respective clients. And in this regard only one mutually agreeable solution exists: in these cases the conflicting parties contractually agree to arbitration by a mutually trusted but independent third party.

And as for this third party, it too is freely financed and stands in competition with other arbitrators or arbitration agencies. Its clients, i.e., the insurers and the insured, expect of it that it come up with a verdict that is recognized as fair and just by all sides. Only arbitrators capable of forming such judgments will succeed in the arbitration market. Arbitrators incapable of this and viewed as biased or partial will disappear from the market.

From this fundamental advantage of a private-law society all other advantages follow.

First, competition among police, insurers, and arbitrators for paying clients would bring about a tendency toward a continuous fall in the price of protection (per insured value), thus rendering protection increasingly more affordable, whereas under monopolistic conditions the price of protection will steadily rise and become increasingly unaffordable.

Furthermore, as already indicated, protection and security are goods and services that compete with others. If more resources are allocated to protection, fewer can be expended on cars, vacations, food, or drink, for example. Also, resources allocated to the protection of group A (people living along the Pacific, for instance), compete with resources expended on the protection of group B (people living along the Atlantic).

The state, as a tax-funded protection monopolist, will necessarily allocate resources arbitrarily. There will be overproduction (or underproduction) of security as compared to other competing goods and services, and there will be overprotection of some individuals, groups, or regions and underprotection of others.

In distinct contrast, in a system of freely competing protection agencies all arbitrariness of allocation (all over- and underproduction) would disappear. Protection would be accorded the relative importance that is has in the eyes of voluntarily paying consumers, and no person, group, or region would receive protection at the expense of any other one. Each and every one would receive protection in accordance with his own payments.

The most important advantage of a private, contract-based production of law and order, however, is of a qualitative nature.

First, there is the fight against crime. The state is notoriously inefficient in this regard, because the state agents entrusted with this task are paid out of taxes, i.e., independent of their productivity. Why should one work if one is also paid for doing nothing at all?

In fact, it can be expected that state agents will have an interest in maintaining a moderately high crime rate, because this way they can justify ever-increased funding. Worse, for state agents the victims of crime and the indemnification and compensation of such victims play an at best negligible role. The state does not indemnify the victims of crime. To the contrary, the harmed victims are still further insulted in making them, qua taxpayers, pay for the incarceration and "rehabilitation" of the criminal (should he be captured).

The situation in a private-law society is entirely different. Security providers, insurers in particular, have to indemnify their clients in the case of actual damage (otherwise they would find no clients) and hence, they must operate efficiently. They must be efficient in the prevention of crime, for unless they can prevent a crime, they would have to pay up. Further, even if a criminal act could not be prevented, they must be efficient in detecting and recovering stolen loot, because otherwise they must pay to replace these goods. In particular, they must be efficient in the detection and apprehension of the criminal, for only if the criminal is apprehended is it possible for them to make him pay for the compensation owed to the victim and thus reduce their costs.

Moreover, a private, competitive, and contract-based security industry has a general peace-promoting effect. States are, as already explained, by nature aggressive. They can cause or provoke conflict in order to then "solve" it to their own advantage.

Or, to put it differently, as tax-funded monopolists of ultimate decision making, states can externalize the costs associated with aggressive behavior onto others, i.e., the hapless taxpayers, and accordingly will tend to be more aggressive vis-à-vis their own population as well as "foreigners."

In distinct contrast, competing private insurers are by nature defensive and peaceful. On the one hand this is because every act of aggression is costly, and an insurance company engaged in aggressive conduct would require comparatively higher premiums, involving the loss of clients to cheaper nonaggressive competitors.

On the other hand, it is not possible to insure oneself against every conceivable "risk." Rather, it is only possible to insure oneself against "accidents," i.e., risks over whose outcome the insured has no control and to which he contributes nothing. Thus, it is possible to insure oneself against the risk of death and fire, for instance, but it is impossible to insure oneself against the risk of committing suicide tomorrow or setting one's own house on fire.

Similarly, it is impossible to insure oneself against the risk of business failure, of unemployment, or of disliking one's neighbors, for in each case one has some control over the event in question. Most significantly, the uninsurability of individual actions and sentiments (in contradistinction to accidents) implies that it is also impossible to insure oneself against the risk of damages resulting from one's own prior aggression or provocation.

Instead, every insurer must restrict the actions of his clients so as to exclude all aggression and provocation on their part. That is, any insurance against social disasters such as crime must be contingent on the insured submitting themselves to specified norms of civilized, nonaggressive conduct.

Further, due to the same reasons and financial concerns, insurers will tend to require that their clients abstain from all forms of vigilante justice (except perhaps under quite extraordinary circumstances), for vigilante justice, even if justified, invariably causes uncertainty and provokes possible third-party intervention. By obliging their clients instead to submit to regular publicized procedures whenever they think they have been victimized, these disturbances and associated costs can be largely avoided.

Lastly, it is worthwhile pointing out that while states as tax-funded agencies can ­ and do ­ engage in the large-scale prosecution of victimless crimes such as "illegal-drug" use, prostitution, or gambling, these "crimes" would tend to be of little or no concern within a system of freely funded protection agencies. "Protection" against such "crimes" would require higher insurance premiums, but since these "crimes" ­ unlike genuine crimes against persons and property ­ do not create victims, very few people would be willing to spend money on such "protection."

Still more: while states, as already noted, are always and everywhere eager to disarm their populations and thus rob them of an essential means of self-defense, private-law societies are characterized by an unrestricted right to self-defense and hence by widespread private gun and weapon ownership. Just imagine a security producer who demanded of its prospective clients that they would first have to completely disarm themselves before it would be willing to defend the clients' life and property. Correctly, everyone would think of this as a bad joke and refuse such on offer.

Freely financed insurance companies that demanded potential clients first hand over all of their means of self-defense as a prerequisite of protection would immediately arouse the utmost suspicion as to their true motives, and they would quickly go bankrupt. In their own best interest, insurance companies would reward armed clients, in particular those able to certify some level of training in the handling of arms, charging them lower premiums reflecting the lower risk that they represent. Just as insurers charge less if homeowners have an alarm system or a safe installed, so would a trained gun owner represent a lower insurance risk.

Last and most importantly, a system of competing protection agencies would have a twofold impact on the development of law. On the one hand, it would allow for greater variability of law. Rather than imposing a uniform set of standards onto everyone (as under statist conditions), protection agencies could compete against each other not just via price but also through product differentiation. There could exist side by side, for instance, Catholic protection agencies or insurers applying canon law, Jewish agencies applying Mosaic law, Muslim agencies applying Islamic law, and agencies applying secular law of one variety or another, all of them sustained by a voluntarily paying clientele. Consumers could choose the law applied to them and their property. No one would have to live under "foreign" law.

On the other hand, the very same system of private law-and-order production would promote a tendency toward the unification and harmonization of law. The "domestic" ­ Catholic, Jewish, Roman, etc. ­ law would apply only to the person and property of those who had chosen it. Canon law, for instance, would apply only to professed Catholics and deal solely with intra-Catholic conflict and conflict resolution.

Yet it is also possible, of course, that a Catholic might come into conflict with the subscriber of some other law code, e.g., a Muslim. If both law codes reached the same or a similar conclusion, no difficulties exist. However, if competing law codes arrived at distinctly different conclusion (as they would at least in some cases), a problem arises.

In this case, "domestic" (intragroup) law would be useless, but naturally every insured person would want protection against the contingency of intergroup conflicts as well. In this situation, it cannot be expected that one insurer and the subscribers of its law code simply subordinate their judgment to that of another insurer and its law. Rather, as I have already explained, in this situation there exists only one credible and acceptable way out of this predicament: from the outset, every insurer would have to be contractually obliged to submit itself and its clients to arbitration by an independent third party. This party would not only be independent but at the same time the unanimous choice of both parties.

It would be agreed upon because of its commonly perceived ability to find mutually agreeable (fair) solutions in cases of intergroup disagreement. If an arbitrator failed in this task and arrived at conclusions that were perceived as "unfair" or "biased" by either one of the insurers or their clients, this person or agency would not likely be chosen as an arbitrator in the future.

As a result of the constant cooperation of various insurers and arbitrators, then, a tendency toward the unification of property and contract law and the harmonization of the rules of procedure, evidence, and conflict resolution would be set in motion. Thus, in buying protection insurance, every insurer and insured becomes a participant in an integrated system of conflict avoidance and peacekeeping. Every single conflict and damage claim, regardless of where and by or against whom, would fall under the jurisdiction of one or more specific insurance agencies and would be handled either by an individual insurer's "domestic" law or by the "international" or "universal" law provisions and procedures agreed upon by everyone in advance.

Hence, instead of permanent conflict, injustice, and legal insecurity ­ as under the present statist conditions -- in a private-law society, peace, justice, and legal security would hold sway.


Hans-Hermann Hoppe, an Austrian School economist and anarchocapitalist philosopher, is professor emeritus of economics at UNLV, a distinguished fellow with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, and founder and president of The Property and Freedom Society.

This article was originally given as a speech in April 2011 at the second Austrian School Conference, Mises Institute Brasil, in Porto Alegre, entitled "State or Private Law Society?" Photos and video are available here.

http://mises.org/daily/5270/State-or-PrivateLaw-Society
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Murray Rothbard and the Cold War
by David Gordon

The War on Terror has been much in the news, and thinking about it makes evident a fundamental fact about the modern state. Its growth is essentially dependent on war and the threat of war. In our time, we see this not only in the battle against al-Qaeda but in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as well.

Murray Rothbard exposed the war system with matchless clarity. For most of his working life, the Cold War dominated American foreign policy. Many people sympathetic to the free market claimed that in order to fight the menace of Soviet Communism, we must, albeit temporarily, acquiesce in a powerful state. Rothbard rejected this line of reasoning, arguing that Soviet policy after World War II was largely defensive. A policy of mutual disarmament and a return to the traditional American foreign policy of nonintervention would cause communism eventually to collapse from its inherent economic defects. Unfortunately, American conservatives abandoned the foreign policy of the Old Right isolationists, in good part owing to the propaganda of William F. Buckley, Jr., and his National Review cohorts, aided and abetted by the CIA.

The following books and articles by Rothbard explain and defend his views on the Cold War and its significance. I recommend that "War and Foreign Policy" be read first, but otherwise the items may be read in any order.

"War and Foreign Policy" in For a New Liberty.

Probably the best place to begin for a grasp of Rothbard's views. Gives a general argument to show that collective security against "aggression" differs from individual self-defense. Isolationism is the appropriate foreign policy. Reviews America's wars, from the Spanish-American War to the Vietnam War, and argues that all were unjustifiable. Argues that Soviet foreign policy after World War II was primarily defensive.

"Critique of Frank S. Meyer's Memorandum," "For a New Isolationism" in Strictly Confidential

A defense of an isolationist foreign policy, written at the height of the Cold War. Mutual disarmament will make a return to isolationism possible.

"The Foreign Policy of the Old Right"

Discusses the "Old Right": its leading figures were in many cases not conventional conservatives but classical liberals such as Albert Jay Nock and H. L. Mencken, as well independent leftists like John T. Flynn. Their opposition to American wars is discussed. Especially valuable for the portrayal of the last stand of the Old Right, opposition to the Korean War, which the conventional left supported.

The Betrayal of the American Right

Rothbard's most detailed account of the Old Right. Particularly valuable for its insider's look at libertarian foreign policy in the period from 1945 to the 1960s. Rothbard shows that William Buckley and his National Review subverted the peace-loving foreign policy of the Old Right, in pursuit of an Orwellian total war against Soviet communism.

"The Transformation of the American Right"

A 1964 article that gives a succinct presentation of Rothbard's thesis of the betrayal of the Old Right. The irrational nature of the "better dead than red" ideology is stressed. There is no need to accept either alternative.

"Rothbard on Orwell: Two Essays"

Challenges the view that Orwell's 1984 was an anti-Soviet polemic. To the contrary, the novel was a protest against the Cold War system of building the power and dominance of the State through whipping up artificial war-scares.

"Myths of the Cold War"

Contends that the usual justifications for the Cold War are mistaken. Communists have certainly been guilty of many crimes, but this hardly makes them unique. The Soviets do not have a timetable for our destruction, and it would be wrong to risk nuclear holocaust to free nations from Communist rule.

"Nations by Consent; Decomposing the Nation-State"

What attitude should libertarians adopt toward nationalism? Existing boundaries of states are not sacred, and , generally, secession movements merit support. Appropriate immigration policy is discussed, and Rothbard rethinks his former support for completely open borders.

Wall Street Banks, and American Foreign Policy

Indispensable background for understanding twentieth-century American foreign policy. Shows the controlling influence of banking interests on American policy, The Morgan and Rockefeller interests and their pro-war policies are analyzed.

"War, Peace, and the State"

Contrary to statist propaganda , the State does not protect its citizens from foreign aggression. To the contrary, the State needs to suppress revolutions and foreign assaults in order to maintain itself. The State resorts to total mobilization, entirely willing to put the lives and liberties of its subjects at risk, to secure its place in the struggle with other States.

" Libertarians Must Never Warm to the Warfare State"

A 1977 article that criticizes libertarians who reject a non-interventionist foreign policy.

"Harry Elmer Barnes as Revisionist of the Cold War"

Barnes was the leading publicist of World War I and World War II revisionism. He continued his anti-war activities after 1945, and Rothbard offers a detailed account of Barnes's opposition to the Korean War and the Cold War. Like Rothbard, Barnes adopted an anti-Cold War interpretation of Orwell's 1984.

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> MANILA (Philippines) - HUNDREDS of boys in a Philippine
> city turned out on Saturday for a day-long 'circumcision party' to
> provide a safe, free procedure for a rite of passage that most local
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> circumcised while many were still waiting in line, city health
> officer Dr Alberto Herrera said. In the Philippines, pre-adolescent and
> adolescent boys traditionally are circumcised during summer school break
> from March to May. In rural areas, the surgery is sometimes performed by
> non-doctors using crude methods.
>
> The city also hopes to establish a world record for the number of people
> attending a mass circumcision.
>
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Five of the plaintiffs are teenagers, who have a "profound interest in
ensuring our climate remains stable enough to ensure their right to a
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They gonna sue China too--the biggest polluter? India? Brazil?Etc? Get
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how,assuming it's what the NASA guy thinks it is. Some propellorhead
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By failing to take action against global warming, the federal government
has violated its legal obligation to protect the atmosphere as a
resource that belongs to everyone, according to a lawsuit filed in
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Their parents are culpable also. Should have thought about population
explosion before having children. Would have saved a lot of trees.

Oh wait! They are going to enact a Bill of Rights for Nature. Wonder if
they will suit these guys for using up so much paper and air for
this.........
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By failing to take action against global warming, the federal government
has violated its legal obligation to protect the atmosphere as a
resource that belongs to everyone, according to a lawsuit filed in
federal court last week.

Their parents are culpable also. Should have thought about population
explosion before having children. Would have saved a lot of trees.

Oh wait! They are going to enact a Bill of Rights for Nature. Wonder if
they will suit these guys for using up so much paper and air for
this.........
It's the "legal obligation"of feds to protect the "atmosphere"??? It's
the CONSITUTIONAL obligation of the feds to protect the BORDERS.They
don't do that,either. Ethanol anyone? Deficits,anyone? Subslimes, anyone?
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I figured you would really enjoy this one.....

As we see..what ever it takes to destroy America...there are those
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Consumer Advocate in Chief?
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
by Gary Galles

In response to the run-up in oil and gasoline prices, President Obama has chosen to follow a well-worn script -- looking for political advantage by pretending to protect voters from the evils of the marketplace. However, his attempt to portray himself as consumer advocate in chief is nothing more than calculated pretense.

At a town hall meeting in Reno, President Obama said,

Last month, I asked my attorney general to look into any cases of price gouging, so we can make sure no one's being taken advantage of at the pump. Today, we're going a step further. The Attorney General's putting together a team whose job it will be to root out any cases of fraud or manipulation in the oil markets that might affect gas prices -- and that includes the role of traders and speculators. We are going to make sure that no one is taking advantage of the American people for their own short-term gain.

That statement was reinforced by a memo from Eric Holder to the Financial Fraud Enforcement Task Force, stating,

Together, we will continue to be vigilant in monitoring for any wrongdoing with respect to rising oil or gasoline prices, so that Americans can be confident that they are not paying a penny more than they should at the gas pump -- and that there is no violation of federal or state law, collusion, or fraud with respect to the price of the gasoline upon which our economy so vitally depends.

One problem is that the implicit accusations of gouging, manipulation, and collusion being made against marketplace behavior involve legally ambiguous or undefined terms. What evidence could prove, rather than just assert, that gouging was taking place? What qualifies as prosecutable manipulation? And not only is collusion already illegal (so authorities should have already been vigilant on that score, requiring no special announcement or task force), a long list of past industry investigations have found no evidence of it. Those words are just vague but ominous-sounding accusations intended to divert any blame and anger that might be directed at the administration onto others who can be made into scapegoats.

Consider gouging. How would it be defined? Political attempts at a definition are usually made in terms of charging "excessive" prices or failing to charge "fair" or "reasonable" prices. For example, in 2007 the then-Democrat-controlled House of Representatives passed a bill that could lead to fines of up to $3 million per day for gasoline price gouging, defined as charging a price that "grossly exceeds the average price … offered for sale by that person during the 30 days prior" or "grossly exceeds the price at which the same or similar gasoline … was readily obtainable in the same area from other competing sellers." Unfortunately, none of those adjectives or adverbs have clear meanings.

Unfortunately, however, investigations or laws built on such undefined terms fail to meet the basic purpose of the rule of law. That purpose is to make clear beforehand what is not allowable, so that decision makers know the limits on their actions, and know that within those bounds, they can pursue voluntary arrangements without needing to worry about political extortion or prosecution.

Effective social cooperation can only be built upon clear rules that constrain government arbitrariness as well as abuses by others. But potential government prosecution for violating an essentially undefined law leaves every decision's legality subject to the whim of a judge or executive-agency functionary, exercised after the fact. No one can know what actions are safe from prosecution. And combining arbitrariness with huge potential punishments is an open invitation to government abuse.

Threatening prosecution for supposed gouging should be adamantly rejected; it expands Americans' exposure to arbitrary acts, including inherently selective prosecution, rather than offering protection against them. Worse, those arbitrary acts are backed by government's coercive power, which far exceeds any alleged "market power" it is supposedly combating; "market power" has to be continually earned through voluntary interactions in the face of competition.

Since gouging is undefined, any prosecution for it would effectively create law after the fact and apply it to prior behavior. The unfairness, as well as arbitrariness, of applying rules retroactively is obvious. What would happen if referees could change the rules of a game after the fact? What if casino payoffs could be changed by the house after the roulette wheel stopped? What if your employer could retroactively lower your wages for last year?

Not only is making the law retroactive inherently unfair, it also violates the plain wording of Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution. That section bans ex post facto laws, reflecting "Federalist 44," where James Madison describes them as "contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation … all of them are prohibited by the spirit and scope of these fundamental charters."

Why would the president make a public show of toughness using an approach and terms that fail basic standards of logic, fairness, and constitutionality? Because it gives him power without responsibility.

With standards for prosecution that are never spelled out, the administration can manipulate firms' behavior by threatening prosecution (which is always very costly for the accused); the state can thus preen as a defender of "the people" without being bound by effective accountability or constraints. After all, because the standards are unknown, political machinations cannot be easily fingered as the cause.

This approach works the same way as civil-rights legislation. Its supporters adamantly denied that it would ever create quotas, and yet it created them: firms didn't know what would be called illegally discriminatory, so to protect themselves from the uncertainty and cost of litigation, they often began relying on quotas.

Accusations and punishments that can essentially criminalize behavior that is legal until, after the fact, it gets selectively redefined as illegal cannot advance Americans' general welfare. It is a grandstanding abuse of government power that reveals its blundering incompetence in yet another area of our lives.

Demanding investigations into whether higher gas prices reflect manipulation or collusion is just a much an example of political posturing.

Absent a smoking-gun conspiracy, which is already illegal, not to mention impossible if the government was really protecting us, manipulation or collusion is unprovable from current prices. The reason is that multiple political and market forces, with impossible-to-quantify effects, are pushing prices up, so that there is no way to know what the competitive price should be, especially because the relevant costs are forward-looking rather than historical. Without that knowledge, one cannot demonstrate that some foul play has artificially raised current prices.

Particularly critical to manipulation or collusion charges, and especially charges made to blame speculators who supposedly change prices with no real economic basis, is the uncertainty about future oil supplies. A refiner planning to stay in business must replace oil used up in current gas production. The relevant cost of that oil is therefore not what it cost to buy it in the past, or even in the present, but what it will cost to replace it in the future.

However, no one can know what that cost "really" will be in the face of the present uncertainty -- with the complications of heightened unrest in many oil-producing nations added to those of economic growth in other parts in the world, ethanol mandates, and the falling value of the dollar relative to other currencies. Without all that information, there is no way to demonstrate gouging or collusion.

California's earlier switch from MTBE to ethanol and its unique cleaner-gas "recipe" is a historical illustration. No one knew exactly how much the prices per gallon should rise to cover the billions in added costs. It depended on a host of variables, including how many gallons would be sold, the risk and therefore the return companies "should" earn on their investments, how much further future regulations would raise costs, etc.

The effects of such issues on "competitive" gas prices would need to be accurately quantified before anyone could possibly show manipulation or collusion by proving that prices are "too high." However, this cannot be done.

But that does not stop political scapegoating of "big oil." The mere accusation is designed to put the burden of proof on oil companies and traders, who cannot produce numbers that definitively disprove the charges. Of course, lost in the process is the fact that their accusers cannot prove them either. But the posturing buys votes from ignorant citizens.

What should we make of government gouging, manipulation, and collusion witch hunts that cannot possibly prove what they are supposedly looking for? What about when such scapegoating is combined with a host of government policies that substantially raise oil and gas prices (e.g., inflationary policies that have driven the exchange value of the dollar down and so raised oil prices, drilling and development restrictions, environmental exactions that prevent development of new refineries, taxes that dwarf any profits earned by "big oil," etc.)?

We should recognize that government does not protect us against the evils of the market, and that its rhetorical posing as consumer advocate is both dishonest and dangerous. Instead, what we need is more reliance on the market to protect us against the evils of ill-advised government policies and grandstanding.


Gary M. Galles is a professor of economics at Pepperdine University

http://mises.org/daily/5261/Consumer-Advocate-in-Chief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WznSA4EU1Gk&feature=player_embedded

Chuckie really does not get it at all. He just does not understand.
Betcha he has somone protecting him at his home and he does not worry
about beng attacked in his office.

Check out this posting from Althouse. And the guy got away with saying
this because he was a liberal. He later apologized for the thing he
said but even his apology has problems.

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2011/05/how-does-it-feel-to-be-called-racist.html

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On May 10, 3:59 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ((  Obarfo the Mooseturd ))
>
> http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=38217
>
> Obama The Muslim
>
> by Major Gen. Jerry
> Curry<http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?author_name=Major+Gen.+Jerry+Curry>
> (more
> by this author)<http://www.humanevents.com/search.php?author_name=Major%20Gen.%20Jerr...>
>
> Posted 07/27/2010 ET
>
> My mother believed in "common sense" testing. She said if it looks like a
> duck, quacks like a duck, waddles like a duck and acts like a duck; it's a
> duck. She believed that actions speak louder than words and that only a liar
> said one thing and then did the opposite.
>
> Would President Obama pass my mother's "is he a Muslim" test? Let's see.
> President Obama says there is nothing more beautiful than the Muslim call to
> prayer in the evening. He says that the United States was not founded as a
> Christian nation.
>
> Obama's father and step-father were Muslims and he spent his childhood
> living in a Muslim country where his school enrollment records say his
> religion is Islam. As President of the United States he genuflects to the
> Muslim King of Saudi Arabia but not the Christian Queen of England. He
> thumbs his nose at America's friends and bows to its enemies. In short,
> Obama quacks like a Muslim, waddles like a Muslim and acts like a Muslim, so
> is he a Muslim? My mother would say, "Yes! He's a Muslim through and
> through."
>
> Growing up as a Muslim, Obama must have learned that according to the Qur'an
> it is acceptable to lie, deceive and live by a double standard provided in
> so doing one advances Islamic goals. Muslims only pretend to trust and be
> friends with non-Muslims; in the deepest of their Muslim hearts they have
> been taught that all non-Muslims are infidels.
>
> Speaking of double standards, Saudi Arabia is building mosques all over the
> world and Muslims are hoping to build a 13 story mosque at "Ground Zero" in
> New York City. At the same time, Islam's double standard mandates that no
> non-Muslim churches be built in Saudi Arabia or other Islamic countries.
>
> A good example of this double standard principle in action was Yasser
> Arafat. He could seemingly enter into genuine peace negotiations with the
> United States and Israel and, at the same time; lie about it with complete
> sincerity. Routinely he made all sorts of promises and pronouncements in
> English, and the very next day said the exact opposite to an Arabic audience
> -- perhaps to him it wasn't really lying, just being faithful to the
> teachings of the Qur'an.
>
> Is it because President Obama is secretly a Muslim that he can so sincerely
> pretend, like Arafat, that his actions and policies have never put a strain
> on U.S. Israeli relations? "If you look at every public statement I have
> made it has been a constant reaffirmation of the special relationship
> between the United States and Israel." This is like President Clinton saying
> that it depends on what the meaning of is is.
>
> In 2005 the U.S. promised Israel, in writing, that in future negotiations
> with the Palestinians we would not insist that Israel withdraw to its
> pre-1967 borders. But last year the Obama Administration said that that
> promise would no longer be honored.
> In the past, both Democrat and Republican Administrations have insisted that
> negotiations be based on a two-state solution, which means that for
> Palestinian refugees
> there can be no open "right of return" to Israel
>
> With open immigration the number of Palestinians living in Israel would
> quickly overwhelm the number of Jews, and soon the Jewish state would cease
> to exist. Candidate Obama, while running for president, made it clear that
> he did not support a "right of return" for Palestinian refugees. But now
> that he's president, he has reneged on that promise.
>
> Months ago Obama promised to send 1,500 National Guard troops to the Arizona
> border and to spend at least $500 million on border security. Gov. Brewer is
> still waiting for the troops and money to arrive.
>
> In a recent Muslim-double-standard speech, President Obama bragged that the
> southwest American border is as safe as it has ever been. But at the same
> time his Administration was putting up signs warning American citizens to
> stay away from the Arizona border area because, "SMUGGLING AND ILLEGAL
> IMMIGRATION MAY BE ENCOUNTERED IN THIS AREA."
>
> Is Obama a Muslim? You make the call.
>
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