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Here's The Real Reason Why Occupy Wall Street Protesters Aren't Getting Kicked Out Of Zuccotti Park
Oct. 11, 2011,
By Robert Johnson
http://www.businessinsider.com/occupy-wall-street-brookfield-properties-zuccotti-park-loan-guarantee-2011-10
Coming on the heels of the Solyndra debacle, the Obama administration has just approved a $168.9 million loan guarantee for the Granite Reliable wind farm project owned by Brookfield Asset Management (BAM).
Among its many holdings BAM owns Brookfield Renewable Power, which owns the Granite Reliable and it also owns Brookfield Office Properties, whose holdings include the now famous Zuccotti Park.
The Department of Energy finalized the loan guarantee less than a week after Occupy Wall Street protesters took to Zuccotti Park, and with the Obama administration's Tuesday endorsement of the protests, rumors are starting to circulate that this could be the reason Brookfield is allowing protesters to remain on its property.
The Granite Reliable Power Project under construction in Coos Bay, New Hampshire is the state's largest wind farm and the New Hampshire Union Leader questions why Brookfield would need federal subsidies at all, particularly following the bankruptcy of Solyndra.
Mayor Bloomberg's announcement Monday that protesters could remain as long as they liked, also raised a few eyebrows and it turns out he has a personal connection to Brookfield as well. The mayor's longtime domestic partner Diana Taylor is on the Board of Directors at Brookfield Properties along with John E. Zuccotti himself.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/occupy-wall-street-brookfield-properties-zuccotti-park-loan-guarantee-2011-10#ixzz1az9aACvc
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SORRY should have been UP!!! LOL
From: Roger Isom <obamaisaloser1@yahoo.com>
To: "politicalforum@googlegroups.com" <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] "Costs of the Occupiers"
BRUCE I couldn't put it better.... these dudes are going to end uo causing a MASS MURDER at this point.
Thats the ONLY way this can now end
From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
To: LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com
Cc: smygo@yahoogroups.com; secularhumanist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] "Costs of the Occupiers"
The Occupiers are noxious to the people who work in the neighborhoods where they are urinating and defecating.
-- That is the main purpose of their rally.
In that they are like marching Nazis in Skokie, Illinois
Both are a form of pollution created by "public" "property" along with litterers, public school bullies, panhandlers, pick pockets, and many rapists, child molesters, and muggers.
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Dan Clore <clore@columbia-center.org> wrote:
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
[I'm posting this as an example of neocon reaction to the occupation
movement at its worst. Of all things, blaming the protestors because the
government taxes people to pay the police to beat them with truncheons,
pepperspray them, trample them with horses, run into them with mopeds,
etc., etc., etc. Yeah, that should make taxpayers mad, but not at the
victims.--DC]
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/10/14/malkin-costs-of-the-occupiers/
Malkin: Costs of the Occupiers
By Michelle Malkin
October 14, 2011 6:30 am
The trash generated by the "Occupy Wall Street" protests keeps piling
up. So do the bills. Liberal media outlets claim the anarchic,
anti-capitalist movement is more popular than the tea party. But wait
until Americans across the country get a full picture of the costs of
the aimless occupiers.
In New York City, government officials estimate the month-long siege of
Zuccotti Park has now imposed $3.2 million in overtime police costs on
the public. On Thursday, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office pressured
left-wing activists to vacate the park for cleaning, Occupy Wall Street
urged sympathizers to flood the city's customer services lines: "Call
311 and tell Bloomberg not to evict us!"
In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter told the press that demonstrators
outside city hall have incurred $164,000 in overtime public employee
costs and $237,000 in regular time. "At the current rate, if Occupy
Philly continues to the end of the month, the city would spend another
nearly $690,000 on police overtime alone," the local NBC affiliate
reported. "Besides the extra police presence being dedicated to the
Occupy Philly protests, other city departments have also incurred costs."
In Seattle, police have so far billed $30,000 in overtime, and the parks
department racked up nearly $4,000 in additional costs related to the
protests there. Occupiers have blocked traffic, assaulted an officer and
pitched illegal tents. Merchants in the area have been hurt as the
riff-raff deter customers. One business owner in Westlake Park, where
hundreds of protesters remain camped out, told Seattle TV station KIRO:
"There's definitely fewer people you can identify as people out, just
walking through the area."
Seattle's pushover mayor, Democrat Mike McGinn, now faces even greater
demands from the insatiable mob -- which wants a "guaranteed parking
space near City Hall Plaza that allows for around-the-clock parking,"
"24-hour access to the first floor of City Hall for restroom access, and
a written statement from the mayor approving the protesters' long-term
occupancy of City Hall Plaza."
In Boston, City Council President Stephen Murphy anticipates a $2
million hit to taxpayers if the protests refuse to disband by the end of
October. The local Fox affiliate notes the tab represents 8 percent of
the yearly budget for police overtime. "While we're all sympathetic with
our protesters down there," Murphy said, "Wall Street isn't picking up
the tab on this thing. It's the Boston taxpayers."
When fiscally conservative tea party activists held protests over the
past two years, they filed for all the required permits and paid for
their own power. Occupy Boston, by contrast, neither sought nor obtained
any proper permits at any level, according to the Boston Globe. Instead,
city and park officials have been cowed into providing them gratis
electricity and camp space lest there be "conflict."
Many of these occupiers are primarily occupied as paid rent-a-mobsters
for unions, left-wing think tanks and the radical Working Families
Party. While one collective hand soaks the taxpayers, the other hand is
busy soliciting free stuff. Occupy Los Angeles activists took to Skype
on their laptops to solicit donations of iPhones and iPads.
Occupy Wall Street members on Twitter organized an ongoing
"#needsoftheoccupiers" drive for everything from batteries and tarps to
"gently used" coats and sweaters, wool socks, sleeping bags and energy
bars. Occupy Austin organizers publicized their wish list, including a
free barbecue grill, portable toilets, extension cords, a Bobcat
forestry cutter for clearing brush and network cameras for a livestream.
These are not principled advocates of fiscal responsibility. They are
professional freeloaders.
Unlike tea party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians
in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business
cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and
nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and
trespassing on private property under the guise of "social justice" but
in plain service of themselves.
Their T-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara,
Emiliano Zapata and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted death row cop
killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They
condemn "Nazi Bankers," Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative
Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family and
the New York Police Department ("Pigs!"). They promote the illegal alien
DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: "F**k banks."
"Unf**k the world." "Fuuuuu*k." "Free education." "Smash nationalism."
"People not profits."
They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for
beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly
for "violent revolution" or for Obama to "Send SEAL Team 6" to Wall Street.
Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy uniform chant they call
the "human microphone") that we just haven't taken the time to
understand what they're all about -- as they hawk $20 "Eat the Rich"
polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)
---
Michelle Malkin is the author of "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his
Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2010).
--
Dan Clore
New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw
My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable and Others_
http://tinyurl.com/3tyj9cq
Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is
in charge on this island?
Professor: Why, no one.
Skipper: No one?
Thurston Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy!
-- _Gilligan's Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan"
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BRUCE I couldn't put it better.... these dudes are going to end uo causing a MASS MURDER at this point.
Thats the ONLY way this can now end
From: Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com>
To: LeftLibertarian2@yahoogroups.com
Cc: smygo@yahoogroups.com; secularhumanist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: [LeftLibertarian2] "Costs of the Occupiers"
The Occupiers are noxious to the people who work in the neighborhoods where they are urinating and defecating.
-- That is the main purpose of their rally.
In that they are like marching Nazis in Skokie, Illinois
Both are a form of pollution created by "public" "property" along with litterers, public school bullies, panhandlers, pick pockets, and many rapists, child molesters, and muggers.
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Dan Clore <clore@columbia-center.org> wrote:
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
[I'm posting this as an example of neocon reaction to the occupation
movement at its worst. Of all things, blaming the protestors because the
government taxes people to pay the police to beat them with truncheons,
pepperspray them, trample them with horses, run into them with mopeds,
etc., etc., etc. Yeah, that should make taxpayers mad, but not at the
victims.--DC]
http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/10/14/malkin-costs-of-the-occupiers/
Malkin: Costs of the Occupiers
By Michelle Malkin
October 14, 2011 6:30 am
The trash generated by the "Occupy Wall Street" protests keeps piling
up. So do the bills. Liberal media outlets claim the anarchic,
anti-capitalist movement is more popular than the tea party. But wait
until Americans across the country get a full picture of the costs of
the aimless occupiers.
In New York City, government officials estimate the month-long siege of
Zuccotti Park has now imposed $3.2 million in overtime police costs on
the public. On Thursday, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office pressured
left-wing activists to vacate the park for cleaning, Occupy Wall Street
urged sympathizers to flood the city's customer services lines: "Call
311 and tell Bloomberg not to evict us!"
In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter told the press that demonstrators
outside city hall have incurred $164,000 in overtime public employee
costs and $237,000 in regular time. "At the current rate, if Occupy
Philly continues to the end of the month, the city would spend another
nearly $690,000 on police overtime alone," the local NBC affiliate
reported. "Besides the extra police presence being dedicated to the
Occupy Philly protests, other city departments have also incurred costs."
In Seattle, police have so far billed $30,000 in overtime, and the parks
department racked up nearly $4,000 in additional costs related to the
protests there. Occupiers have blocked traffic, assaulted an officer and
pitched illegal tents. Merchants in the area have been hurt as the
riff-raff deter customers. One business owner in Westlake Park, where
hundreds of protesters remain camped out, told Seattle TV station KIRO:
"There's definitely fewer people you can identify as people out, just
walking through the area."
Seattle's pushover mayor, Democrat Mike McGinn, now faces even greater
demands from the insatiable mob -- which wants a "guaranteed parking
space near City Hall Plaza that allows for around-the-clock parking,"
"24-hour access to the first floor of City Hall for restroom access, and
a written statement from the mayor approving the protesters' long-term
occupancy of City Hall Plaza."
In Boston, City Council President Stephen Murphy anticipates a $2
million hit to taxpayers if the protests refuse to disband by the end of
October. The local Fox affiliate notes the tab represents 8 percent of
the yearly budget for police overtime. "While we're all sympathetic with
our protesters down there," Murphy said, "Wall Street isn't picking up
the tab on this thing. It's the Boston taxpayers."
When fiscally conservative tea party activists held protests over the
past two years, they filed for all the required permits and paid for
their own power. Occupy Boston, by contrast, neither sought nor obtained
any proper permits at any level, according to the Boston Globe. Instead,
city and park officials have been cowed into providing them gratis
electricity and camp space lest there be "conflict."
Many of these occupiers are primarily occupied as paid rent-a-mobsters
for unions, left-wing think tanks and the radical Working Families
Party. While one collective hand soaks the taxpayers, the other hand is
busy soliciting free stuff. Occupy Los Angeles activists took to Skype
on their laptops to solicit donations of iPhones and iPads.
Occupy Wall Street members on Twitter organized an ongoing
"#needsoftheoccupiers" drive for everything from batteries and tarps to
"gently used" coats and sweaters, wool socks, sleeping bags and energy
bars. Occupy Austin organizers publicized their wish list, including a
free barbecue grill, portable toilets, extension cords, a Bobcat
forestry cutter for clearing brush and network cameras for a livestream.
These are not principled advocates of fiscal responsibility. They are
professional freeloaders.
Unlike tea party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians
in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business
cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and
nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and
trespassing on private property under the guise of "social justice" but
in plain service of themselves.
Their T-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara,
Emiliano Zapata and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted death row cop
killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They
condemn "Nazi Bankers," Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative
Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family and
the New York Police Department ("Pigs!"). They promote the illegal alien
DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: "F**k banks."
"Unf**k the world." "Fuuuuu*k." "Free education." "Smash nationalism."
"People not profits."
They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for
beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly
for "violent revolution" or for Obama to "Send SEAL Team 6" to Wall Street.
Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy uniform chant they call
the "human microphone") that we just haven't taken the time to
understand what they're all about -- as they hawk $20 "Eat the Rich"
polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)
---
Michelle Malkin is the author of "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his
Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2010).
--
Dan Clore
New book: _Weird Words: A Lovecraftian Lexicon_:
http://tinyurl.com/yd3bxkw
My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable and Others_
http://tinyurl.com/3tyj9cq
Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is
in charge on this island?
Professor: Why, no one.
Skipper: No one?
Thurston Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy!
-- _Gilligan's Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan"
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The Despicable Lies of Herman Cain
by Justin T. P. Quinn
I couldn't believe what I heard on Tuesday night's Bloomberg Debate. Well, okay, I guess I could believe it, but let me qualify my recantation. There was always something about Cain that made him come off as a man who isn't above deception. It probably has something to do with the fact that I don't trust former Federal Reserve Chairmen. Still, I was surprised, not because because he lied, but what he lied about.
When they started the segment of the debate where each candidate could ask their own question, I knew that Paul was going to hammer Cain. However, I was hoping it was going to be on Herman Cain's credibility on economic issues. Arguably, it would have been a much better question. Arguably, this could be seen as a missed opportunity on Ron Paul's part, but hindsight may prove it better for Ron Paul to have kept that card in reserve. Instead of asking a question that would have highlighted his own credentials, Paul came out in defense of the countless grassroots supporters that pester Herman Cain on the issue of auditing the Federal Reserve.
- Mr. Cain, in the past you have been rather critical of any of us who would want to audit the Fed. You have said -- you've used pretty strong terms, that we were ignorant and that we didn't know what we are doing, and therefore, there was no need for an audit anyway, because if you had one, you're not going to find out anything, because everybody knows everything about the Fed," Paul said.
- But now that we have found and we have gotten an audit, we have found out an awful lot on how special businesses get bailed out -- Wall Street, the banks, and special companies, foreign governments. And you said that you advise those of us who were concerned, and you belittled -- you say call up the Federal Reserve and just ask them, get the PR person. Do you still stick by this, that that this is frivolous, or do you think it's very important? Sixty-four percent of the American people want a full audit of the Fed on a regular basis.
- But now that we have found and we have gotten an audit, we have found out an awful lot on how special businesses get bailed out -- Wall Street, the banks, and special companies, foreign governments. And you said that you advise those of us who were concerned, and you belittled -- you say call up the Federal Reserve and just ask them, get the PR person. Do you still stick by this, that that this is frivolous, or do you think it's very important? Sixty-four percent of the American people want a full audit of the Fed on a regular basis.
- First of all, you have misquoted me. I did not call you or any of your people ignorant. I don't know where that came from. Alright? (Paul: "I'll get it for you.") Now, so, you've gotta be careful of the stuff you get off the Internet, because that's just not something I've said. Secondly, when I served on the board of the Federal Reserve in the 1990's, we didn't do any of the things that this federal reserve is doing. I don't agree with the actions of this federal Reserve. I don't agree with the actions that have been undertaken by Ben Bernanke. We didn't have a 14 trillion dollar national debt to prop up with some of the actions that they are taking. And I have also said, to be precise, I do not object to the federal Reserve being audited. I simple said, "If someone wants to initiate that action, go right ahead. It doesn't bother me." So, I've been misrepresented in that regard. I don't have a problem with the Federal Reserve being audited, it's simply not my top priority. My top priority is 9-9-9! Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!
The Word "Ignorant"
"First of all, you have misquoted me. I did not call you or any of your people ignorant."
-- What do you mean, your people!
Just kidding. I won't play any race cards in this one. I'm more intellectually honest than that. Instead, lets look at real substance of Mr. Cain's words and see how well they apply to reality. I'll start with the word ignorant. Has Mr. Cain ever referred to Dr. Paul's people using the word "ignorant."
No -- he used the word "stupid," in his own book, in fact. "Just more Internet nonsense," you say? Really? Is the Daily Caller lying? Sure, it would be nice if they provided page and paragraph, but has the Cain Campaign come out to deny it? Is anyone denying it. In Cain's defense, he never called Ron's Supporters "stupid," just that they "ask stupid questions." He also never called them "liars" either, just that they "stretch the truth" when they say Cain doesn't want an audit of the Federal Reserve.
But I digress. Lets tackle this "ignorant" issue head on, and see what DR. Paul is referring to.
- ...but people who say, "Well, we ought to audit the Federal Reserve because we don't know enough about it," well, here's the advice I've given to people who are worried about an audit of the Federal Reserve. "CALL 'EM UP, and ask 'em, if you can stop by and have one of their PR people, or of their Public Relations people, explain to you, how the Federal Reserve operates!" I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don't know enough about it. There's no hidden secrets going on in the Federal Reserve, to my knowledge, and I tell people, we've got twelve Federal Reserve banks, find out which district you're in, call 'em up and go from there! We don't need to waste money with another commission, or an audit that's not necessary, because, folks, we got a lot of other problems we need to worry about. You're listening to the Neil Boortz Show, and this-is-Herman Cain.
Let's do a little Google search on the word ignorant. 1. Lacking knowledge or awareness in general; uneducated or unsophisticated. 2. Lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular: "ignorant of (the Federal Reserve)". Is this so different from "I think a lot of people are calling for this audit of the Federal Reserve because they don't know enough about it." The worst that Dr. Paul can really be accused of here is that he summarized what Cain said due to time constraints and the fact that it was but one of several points he made. We can only ask, what exactly does Herman Cain mean when he uses the word "ignorant"? Surely he doesn't use it in the same sense that a teenage girl would use when she calls someone "ignorant," when she really means "arrogant."
This would be enough on its own, but Cain then decides that in order to save himself from the humiliating task of addressing the fact that he was wrong about what would be found once the Fed was audited, coward that he is, he tried to humiliate Ron Paul. "Now, so, you've gotta be careful of the stuff you get off the Internet, because that's just not something I've said." Immediately after he denies calling the Ron Paul folks "ignorant," he then proceeds to insinuate that they are ignorant, stupid, dishonest, gullible incompetents. I almost put my fist through the screen. (Good thing I wasn't sitting next to him.) Ron Paul is the most knowledgeable and intellectually honest man in politics, period, and he's written many scholarly and insightful books on matters of economics and politics, not just some self-procured puff piece for his ego.
The retaliation by the New Media was swift and brutal. This Huffington Post article was up at 9:53pm, which means the author likely starting writing the moment Cain opened his mouth. This video, five minutes of beautifully edited back-to-back quotes of Paul and Cain, came out less than 48 hours after the debate. Video editing being the long and arduous process that it is, the guy must have had to sacrifice a lot of sleep. Soon, even the mainstream media will have to address Cain's background with the Federal Reserve.
Ron Paul is a plastic-man killer. His close second to Michele Bachmann in the Ames Straw Poll (although a good amount of evidence shows that the results were fixed, as Paul's campaign rightly suspects), blunted her momentum and sent her poll numbers plummeting. Ron Paul can also be credited with single handedly torpedoing Gardasil Rick's campaign. Rick Perry had to learn the hard way not to go toe-to-toe with Ron Paul. I predict that Herman Cain will suffer the same fate. The mainstream media is running out of plastic dummies to prop up, and Ron Paul now has a chance to knock Herman Cain out of the race permanently, while at the same time raising himself to the top of the list. If Ron Paul can take Tom Wood's advice, and challenge Cain on his abysmal economic record, Paul can positively distinguish himself from the other candidates by putting his expertise on display.
In a way, Herman Cain had no choice but to lie on national television. He knows he can't directly say he's opposed to an audit that the vast majority of the people want, yet at the same time he can never turn his back on his career with the establishment. Since he lacks Paul's record of consistency, honesty, and accurate economic predictions, his only hope of becoming president is to continue allying himself with the powers that be. On Herman Cain you'll see the same wide, disgusting, evil grin that you see on the faces of every other candidate, but you won't see that from Ron Paul. He is not stiff and plastic, but relaxed and at ease. His is the face of a man who hasn't sold his soul.
http://lewrockwell.com/orig12/quinn-justin2.1.1.html
So, democracy is messy. While I have not participated in any
occupations, I am certainly sympathetic. Wall Street, and a kabal of
very wealthy families run the world beyond the scrutiny of any
government or police force. But it is us that have given them much of
their power. One can always choose what they wish to buy, and what
they will eat... if they are truly willing to pay the true price of
freedom... Of course some would lose weight, but North Americans are
known for being fat. Perhaps the cities would see fit to provide
public rest rooms, as they do in the UK... that. I for one was quite
happy to pay as much as a shiilling twenty years ago to pay for an
attendant to maintain a public facility. At the time I was a
tourist.. an export that many muicipalities wish to attract. For a
large gathering..'Johnny on the spot' can certainly meet the short
term need... and of the communities for cleanliness.
occupations, I am certainly sympathetic. Wall Street, and a kabal of
very wealthy families run the world beyond the scrutiny of any
government or police force. But it is us that have given them much of
their power. One can always choose what they wish to buy, and what
they will eat... if they are truly willing to pay the true price of
freedom... Of course some would lose weight, but North Americans are
known for being fat. Perhaps the cities would see fit to provide
public rest rooms, as they do in the UK... that. I for one was quite
happy to pay as much as a shiilling twenty years ago to pay for an
attendant to maintain a public facility. At the time I was a
tourist.. an export that many muicipalities wish to attract. For a
large gathering..'Johnny on the spot' can certainly meet the short
term need... and of the communities for cleanliness.
On Oct 16, 6:38 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Occupiers are noxious to the people who work in the neighborhoods where
> they are urinating and defecating.
>
> That is the main purpose of their rally.
>
> In that they are like marching Nazis in Skokie, Illinois
>
> Both are a form of pollution created by "public" "property" along with
> litterers, public school bullies, panhandlers, pick pockets, and many
> rapists, child molesters, and muggers.
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM, Dan Clore <cl...@columbia-center.org>wrote:
>
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>
> > **
>
> > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
>
> > [I'm posting this as an example of neocon reaction to the occupation
> > movement at its worst. Of all things, blaming the protestors because the
> > government taxes people to pay the police to beat them with truncheons,
> > pepperspray them, trample them with horses, run into them with mopeds,
> > etc., etc., etc. Yeah, that should make taxpayers mad, but not at the
> > victims.--DC]
>
> >http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2011/10/14/malkin-costs-of-the-occup...
> > Malkin: Costs of the Occupiers
> > By Michelle Malkin
> > October 14, 2011 6:30 am
>
> > The trash generated by the "Occupy Wall Street" protests keeps piling
> > up. So do the bills. Liberal media outlets claim the anarchic,
> > anti-capitalist movement is more popular than the tea party. But wait
> > until Americans across the country get a full picture of the costs of
> > the aimless occupiers.
>
> > In New York City, government officials estimate the month-long siege of
> > Zuccotti Park has now imposed $3.2 million in overtime police costs on
> > the public. On Thursday, as Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office pressured
> > left-wing activists to vacate the park for cleaning, Occupy Wall Street
> > urged sympathizers to flood the city's customer services lines: "Call
> > 311 and tell Bloomberg not to evict us!"
>
> > In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter told the press that demonstrators
> > outside city hall have incurred $164,000 in overtime public employee
> > costs and $237,000 in regular time. "At the current rate, if Occupy
> > Philly continues to the end of the month, the city would spend another
> > nearly $690,000 on police overtime alone," the local NBC affiliate
> > reported. "Besides the extra police presence being dedicated to the
> > Occupy Philly protests, other city departments have also incurred costs."
>
> > In Seattle, police have so far billed $30,000 in overtime, and the parks
> > department racked up nearly $4,000 in additional costs related to the
> > protests there. Occupiers have blocked traffic, assaulted an officer and
> > pitched illegal tents. Merchants in the area have been hurt as the
> > riff-raff deter customers. One business owner in Westlake Park, where
> > hundreds of protesters remain camped out, told Seattle TV station KIRO:
> > "There's definitely fewer people you can identify as people out, just
> > walking through the area."
>
> > Seattle's pushover mayor, Democrat Mike McGinn, now faces even greater
> > demands from the insatiable mob -- which wants a "guaranteed parking
> > space near City Hall Plaza that allows for around-the-clock parking,"
> > "24-hour access to the first floor of City Hall for restroom access, and
> > a written statement from the mayor approving the protesters' long-term
> > occupancy of City Hall Plaza."
>
> > In Boston, City Council President Stephen Murphy anticipates a $2
> > million hit to taxpayers if the protests refuse to disband by the end of
> > October. The local Fox affiliate notes the tab represents 8 percent of
> > the yearly budget for police overtime. "While we're all sympathetic with
> > our protesters down there," Murphy said, "Wall Street isn't picking up
> > the tab on this thing. It's the Boston taxpayers."
>
> > When fiscally conservative tea party activists held protests over the
> > past two years, they filed for all the required permits and paid for
> > their own power. Occupy Boston, by contrast, neither sought nor obtained
> > any proper permits at any level, according to the Boston Globe. Instead,
> > city and park officials have been cowed into providing them gratis
> > electricity and camp space lest there be "conflict."
>
> > Many of these occupiers are primarily occupied as paid rent-a-mobsters
> > for unions, left-wing think tanks and the radical Working Families
> > Party. While one collective hand soaks the taxpayers, the other hand is
> > busy soliciting free stuff. Occupy Los Angeles activists took to Skype
> > on their laptops to solicit donations of iPhones and iPads.
>
> > Occupy Wall Street members on Twitter organized an ongoing
> > "#needsoftheoccupiers" drive for everything from batteries and tarps to
> > "gently used" coats and sweaters, wool socks, sleeping bags and energy
> > bars. Occupy Austin organizers publicized their wish list, including a
> > free barbecue grill, portable toilets, extension cords, a Bobcat
> > forestry cutter for clearing brush and network cameras for a livestream.
>
> > These are not principled advocates of fiscal responsibility. They are
> > professional freeloaders.
>
> > Unlike tea party activists who focused like a laser beam on politicians
> > in both parties responsible for redistributing wealth to Big Business
> > cronies by force, the Occupy Wall Street movement is everywhere and
> > nowhere. The entitled Kamp Alinsky Kids are poaching WiFi and
> > trespassing on private property under the guise of "social justice" but
> > in plain service of themselves.
>
> > Their T-shirts and speeches glorify Marxist radicals Che Guevara,
> > Emiliano Zapata and Chairman Mao. They lionize convicted death row cop
> > killer Troy Davis and WikiLeaks collaborator Bradley Manning. They
> > condemn "Nazi Bankers," Jews, Fox News, the American Legislative
> > Exchange Council, Wisconsin GOP Gov. Scott Walker, the Koch family and
> > the New York Police Department ("Pigs!"). They promote the illegal alien
> > DREAM Act and 9/11 Trutherism.
>
> > They spout bumper-sticker profanities and inanities: "F**k banks."
> > "Unf**k the world." "Fuuuuu*k." "Free education." "Smash nationalism."
> > "People not profits."
>
> > They flash peace signs while celebrity supporter Roseanne Barr calls for
> > beheading financial industry workers and fellow marchers call explicitly
> > for "violent revolution" or for Obama to "Send SEAL Team 6" to Wall Street.
>
> > Then they huff and puff (preferably in a creepy uniform chant they call
> > the "human microphone") that we just haven't taken the time to
> > understand what they're all about -- as they hawk $20 "Eat the Rich"
> > polo shirts and license their protest photos to Getty Images.
>
> > Viva la revolucion! Up with people! Stop the greed! (Cha-ching. Cha-ching.)
>
> > ---
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> > Michelle Malkin is the author of "Culture of Corruption: Obama and his
> > Team of Tax Cheats, Crooks & Cronies" (Regnery 2010).
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> > My collected fiction: _The Unspeakable and Others_
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> > Lord Weÿrdgliffe & Necronomicon Page:
> >http://tinyurl.com/292yz9
> > News & Views for Anarchists & Activists:
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
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> > Skipper: Professor, will you tell these people who is
> > in charge on this island?
> > Professor: Why, no one.
> > Skipper: No one?
> > Thurston Howell III: No one? Good heavens, this is anarchy!
> > -- _Gilligan's Island_, episode #6, "President Gilligan"
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Iraqi Militants Encourage People of Khuzestan to Launch Jihad against
Iran
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 9 Issue: 37
October 14, 2011 05:07 PM
Iran
Publication: Terrorism Monitor Volume: 9 Issue: 37
October 14, 2011 05:07 PM
Influenced by the upheaval that has stricken many Arab countries in
the Middle East and North Africa, the people of southwest Iran's
Khuzestan Province have tried to start their own protest movement.
Khuzestan is inhabited by a majority of Arabs and is home to more than
80% of Iran's oil reserves. In the Arabic literature of the political
and cultural organizations of the province, the area is called al-
Ahwaz. [1]
The calls for an uprising in the province earlier this year tried to
emulate the April 2005 protests in Khuzestan, which were quelled by
the use of violence by Iranian authorities. The Iranian state media
reported no news from the province during the current protests but
opposition sources claimed that the Iranian Revolutionary Guards
opened fire on the protesters and killed three people. It was also
reported that dozens were arrested (Alarab.net, April 18).
Although the movement did not develop into anything like the uprising
of 2005, it attracted the attention of Iraqi Islamist insurgent
groups. The Salafi-Jihadi Ansar al-Islam (AI) group released a
communiqu� named "Message of solidarity with our brothers in Ahwaz,"
calling on them to unify their efforts and launch a jihad against Iran
(alboraq.info, May 11).Cooperation between the Iraqi insurgents and
Ahwazi groups reportedly started soon after the invasion of Iraq in
2003. During the 2005 uprising in Khuzestan, the first agreement
between activists from the province and Iraqi insurgents became known
and a series of bombs struck Iranian government buildings and targets
the following years (Islammemo.cc, June 12, 2005).
Arabs in the province accuse successive Iranian governments of
pursuing a policy aimed at changing the demographic nature of the
region by encouraging non-Arab Iranians to migrate to the province in
large numbers. They are also critical of changes in the province's
borders that have seen southern areas with a majority Arab population
detached and areas with Arab minority populations added in the north.
In an interview with the Jamestown Foundation, the leader of the
disbanded Hizb al-Nahda al-Arabi al-Ahwazi (Ahwazi Arab Renaissance
Party), Sabah al-Mossawi, revealed that there were Ahwazi fighters who
had joined the Iraqi insurgency: "They went to fight the occupation
[i.e. Coalition forces] but also to fight the Iranian-backed parties.
They mainly joined the Islamic Army in Iraq and the Ba'ath party."
Throughout centuries of conflict between Iran and the Ottoman Empire,
the Khuzestan region managed to maintain a degree of relative
independence, being ruled by a series of local tribal leaders. The
last of these was toppled by the Iranian authorities in 1925 and the
area came under the direct control of Tehran. After the Islamic
revolution of 1979, the community's demands for more rights and
recognition of their distinct identity were not accepted by the new
government. Subsequently a large-scale uprising broke out in the
province. The Iranian authorities in turn repressed the protest
movement ruthlessly and the area came under military rule. Iraqi-
backed organizations launched a series of attacks on military and
civilian targets during the uprising. The Ahwazi issue attracted
international attention when a group of Ahwazi gunmen belonging to the
Democratic Revolutionary Front for the Liberation of Arabistan (DRFLA)
occupied the Iranian embassy in London in 1980 and took hostages.
After a six-day siege of the embassy by police, the gunmen killed one
hostage, leading to a successful raid to release the hostages in the
embassy by the British Special Air Service (SAS), a Special Forces
Regiment.
There are various opposition groups which claim to represent the Arab
population of Khuzestan. All of them are banned in Iran but operate in
exile while claiming to have an active presence in the province.
However the most prominent group that claims to be militarily active
is the Ba'athist Arab Struggle Movement to Liberate Ahwaz (ASMLA) and
its armed wing, the Martyr Mohye al-Din al-Nasir Brigade (MMDNB). The
latter's strategy is to target oil production facilities in the
province as a means of weakening the Iranian economy, which depends
heavily on the oil of Khuzestan Province. In 2007 the MMDNB recognized
Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri as the new leader of the Iraqi Ba'ath party
(Albasrah.net, June 24, 2007)
The majority of the people of Khuzestan are Sh'ia Muslims but there
has been a growing movement among them to convert to Sunni Islam. This
trend has escalated significantly over the last few years, driven
mainly by a local identity problem. Resentment of Iran by some Shi'a
Ahwazis is reflected in a number or ways, including a rejection of the
Shi'a faith. None of the prominent Shi'a clerics in Iran or Iraq have
clearly supported the Ahwazi cause. The most senior Ahwazi cleric and
the most influential community leader, Shaykh Muhammad Tahir al-
Khaqani, was forced to leave Khuzestan after the uprising of 1979 and
put under house arrest in Qom until his death in 1986. No other local
cleric emerged to preserve the Shi'a-Arab nationalist identity of the
population.
Salafi-Jihadi groups from Iraq regard the conversions to Sunni Islam
in Khuzestan-Ahwaz as genuine and are encouraging the integration of
Ahwazi converts in the international jihadi movement. According to the
AI communiqu�: "The origin of the people of Ahwaz is that they are a
Sunni nation. The Iranian occupation has imposed Persian and Shi'a
culture on them. The policy of Persianization is based on the Rafidah
faith (i.e. Shi'a Islam). Therefore there should be a clear
distinction of the right faith (i.e. Sunni Islam). This distinction
should be the foundation to be relied on for achieving political and
geographical independence for the state of Ahwaz." The AI message went
on to set a strategy for the confrontation in Khuzestan, calling for
its people to build a Sunni religious and political leadership: "There
should be a unified Sunni-Jihadi movement in Ahwaz and it should join
the global jihad" (Alboraq.info, May11).
The AI communiqu� is very important. It is picking up on a growing
trend and trying to direct it towards a jihadi goal. So far the
revolutionary movements in Khuzestan have been based on the
community's Arab identity within a Persian and Shi'a Iran. With the
increase of conversions to Sunni Islam among the population, it is not
possible to rule out that a base for a Salafi-Jihadi organization
could be established in the province. Such a development might well
change the relationship between Salafi-Jihadi groups and Iran. The
former have avoided a direct confrontation with Tehran so far, despite
the often severe confrontations between the Shi'a and Sunni
communities in the Middle East. Iraqi Sunni Islamists will be heavily
involved in such a struggle, putting the Salafi-Jihadists at the
centre of one of the most significant geo-political conflicts in the
region.
Notes:
1. Khuzestan was historically named Arabistan (the land of the Arabs).
In 1935 the Iranian government of Shah Reza Pahlavi renamed it
Khuzestan i.e. "the Land of the Khuzis," referring to the ancient name
used for sugar cane farmers in the ancient kingdom of Susa.
Local Arab people call the province al-Ahwaz and emphasize its history
of independence under Arab rulers since the Arab invasion of 639 C.E.
Ahwaz is also the name of the Khuzestan capital.
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