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Kieth this dude is so SICK I simply put his stuff in the SPAM FOLDER......
ANONYMOUS PERHAPS???


From: Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com>
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: Letter to butcher - a poem by William Gomes

WTF?
 
 
 


 
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, William Gomes <williamgomes.org@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear butcher,

You were my friend of last, 27 years; I loved the meat you slaughtered.
 I wait for the meat and enjoyed the meat that you have slaughtered.
 I never taught the meat I had that comes to by table costing life.
 I never taught on the meat where I was dancing with bear
And drinks that caused a tragic end of some lives.
 
 My old friend, now I have to quite taking meat I f I want to live,
 So   I have to bye to you and your slaughter house.
 
My old friend the taste of the meat is not the same , I cannot take , I tried to take , I can fell the life still crying , begging for the life , while you slaughtered the lives , enjoying the art of killing.
 
 I am equally liable for the lives that you take because
I was the customer of your profession, so you are no more friends,
you are an ex friends and regular murder.
 
 
There is no problem although you are losing a customer, more than a friend,
I am customer to you.
 
There are many who will promote your service,
they will dance on your murder, bring professional logics, that meat is very essentials,
why you should keep murdering lives ,innocent lives ,
although the lives have done nothing to you and to your friends ,
it is their need or lust for meat and meats .
 
You are not alone my friends ,  there are some professionals , who wear nice dresses ,
 they do not have the sharp blades in their hands but they do have very sharp pen ,
 from the pen always the blood is shedding , they are worst then you ,
they  even do the trade of human dead bodies. They sell the stories of sufferings ,
they looks how badly someone injured ,
how badly someone can die and how excellently they can present the death ,
they keep selling dead bodies and you keep selling the meat of dead.
 So my friend, you are better and they are worst.
 
You compete with others but not with the animals that you
slaughter but they do slaughter the fellow human beings.
 
Some even inherent both killings human and animals ,
they are worst and they are the upper class my friend,
 your customers are the rich  people , poor people cannot think to buy your products ,
but my friends their products are poor and the customers are rich peoples .
You are better than them my friend, you never make the poor your products.
 
My friend, the upper class killers find out new
And throughout the olds in their business
 but my friend you are better you look for the old and matures ,
but you are a killer as they are.
 
The upper and lower or middle all are same.
The killers are same, the products and by products brings them benefits.
 
You are better my friend you tie and kill ,
they are worst they don't tie but silently kills that people can see but does nothing ,
 so they have a good gang to support them ,
 they brings people from Bengal and send to Himalayans and to slaughter their by products ,
they sought for 3000 , even some people get ready to sell their kidney ,
 they keep calling other slaughter
and seat in the board of directors in the east or west all slaughters are same .
 
 
My friend you please join them ,
they will fund you and some meat lovers will buy meat ,
 more meat and dance ,
 a mad dance more selling of your and their .
 
Keep killing and I will not be your friend or your friends friend.
Your friends will now take their pen to kill me,
you are better you will not take your sharp blade to kill me.
 
My friend keeps fighting with life near
the morgue they send a beast of Bengal to Himalayan.
 
You are better my friend.  You don't slaughter the dead,
but they do, it's the art of killing they have, but you don't have.
 
You are butcher but what I can call them,
 who are upper, class you or they.
Now tell me, butcher, what I should do?
who will judge or I will be judged?
Both of will keep practicing your art of killing but the time is coming,
the products and by products and your customers will do the same,
 what you do then or what you will do now?
 
Listen the screams, you killers!
 
Listen the screams for life!
 
This is my first poem; I dedicate this poem to prominent butchers and slaughter houses.


http://nicholasgomes.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/letter-to-butcher/

www.facebook.com/williamnicholasgomes
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On Oct 23, 8:17 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't let her fool you guys ! Michelle Obama has been "
tweeting " all her life. When she attended Princeton University she
was known as the " bird brain ". snicker.....


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Hey Keith,

It seems William Nicholas Gomes is from Bangladesh and is
experiencing either a seriously bad life there or is in a serious
state of fear and/or paranoia. He claims to be an anarchist,
journalist and a poet. He continually talks about the CIA, Christians
and Maoists conspiring against his people. Perhaps he could elaborate
for us so we can better understand what his poem of gibberish is all
about. I surely can't make sense of it !

On Oct 23, 6:23 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WTF?
>
> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, William Gomes
> <williamgomes....@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > *
> > *
>
> > *Dear butcher,*
>
> > *
> > *
>
> > *You were my friend of last, 27 years; I loved the meat you slaughtered.*
>
> > * I wait for the meat and enjoyed the meat that you have slaughtered. *
>
> > * I never taught the meat I had that comes to by table costing life. *
>
> > * I never taught on the meat where I was dancing with bear *
>
> > *And drinks that caused a tragic end of some lives. *
>
> > * *
>
> > * My old friend, now I have to quite taking meat I f I want to live,*
>
> > * So   I have to bye to you and your slaughter house. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *My old friend the taste of the meat is not the same , I cannot take , I
> > tried to take , I can fell the life still crying , begging for the life ,
> > while you slaughtered the lives , enjoying the art of killing.*
>
> > * *
>
> > * I am equally liable for the lives that you take because *
>
> > *I was the customer of your profession, so you are no more friends, *
>
> > *you are an ex friends and regular murder.*
>
> > * *
>
> > * *
>
> > *There is no problem although you are losing a customer, more than a
> > friend, *
>
> > *I am customer to you.*
>
> > * *
>
> > *There are many who will promote your service, *
>
> > *they will dance on your murder, bring professional logics, that meat is
> > very essentials, *
>
> > *why you should keep murdering lives ,innocent lives , *
>
> > *although the lives have done nothing to you and to your friends , *
>
> > *it is their need or lust for meat and meats . *
>
> > * *
>
> > *You are not alone my friends ,  there are some professionals , who wear
> > nice dresses ,*
>
> > * they do not have the sharp blades in their hands but they do have very
> > sharp pen ,*
>
> > * from the pen always the blood is shedding , they are worst then you , *
>
> > *they  even do the trade of human dead bodies. They sell the stories of
> > sufferings , *
>
> > *they looks how badly someone injured , *
>
> > *how badly someone can die and how excellently they can present the death
> > , *
>
> > *they keep selling dead bodies and you keep selling the meat of dead.*
>
> > * So my friend, you are better and they are worst. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *You compete with others but not with the animals that you *
>
> > *slaughter but they do slaughter the fellow human beings. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *Some even inherent both killings human and animals , *
>
> > *they are worst and they are the upper class my friend,*
>
> > * your customers are the rich  people , poor people cannot think to buy
> > your products , *
>
> > *but my friends their products are poor and the customers are rich peoples
> > . *
>
> > *You are better than them my friend, you never make the poor your
> > products. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *My friend, the upper class killers find out new *
>
> > *And throughout the olds in their business*
>
> > * but my friend you are better you look for the old and matures , *
>
> > *but you are a killer as they are. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *The upper and lower or middle all are same. *
>
> > *The killers are same, the products and by products brings them benefits.
> > *
>
> > * *
>
> > *You are better my friend you tie and kill , *
>
> > *they are worst they don't tie but silently kills that people can see but
> > does nothing ,*
>
> > * so they have a good gang to support them ,*
>
> > * they brings people from Bengal and send to Himalayans and to slaughter
> > their by products , *
>
> > *they sought for 3000 , even some people get ready to sell their kidney ,*
>
> > * they keep calling other slaughter *
>
> > *and seat in the board of directors in the east or west all slaughters are
> > same .*
>
> > * *
>
> > * *
>
> > *My friend you please join them , *
>
> > *they will fund you and some meat lovers will buy meat ,*
>
> > * more meat and dance ,*
>
> > * a mad dance more selling of your and their .*
>
> > * *
>
> > *Keep killing and I will not be your friend or your friends friend. *
>
> > *Your friends will now take their pen to kill me, *
>
> > *you are better you will not take your sharp blade to kill me. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *My friend keeps fighting with life near *
>
> > *the morgue they send a beast of Bengal to Himalayan. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *You are better my friend.  You don't slaughter the dead, *
>
> > *but they do, it's the art of killing they have, but you don't have. *
>
> > * *
>
> > *You are butcher but what I can call them,*
>
> > * who are upper, class you or they.*
>
> > *Now tell me, butcher, what I should do? *
>
> > *who will judge or I will be judged?*
>
> > *Both of will keep practicing your art of killing but the time is coming,
> > *
>
> > *the products and by products and your customers will do the same,*
>
> > * what you do then or what you will do now? *
>
> > * *
>
> > *Listen the screams, you killers!*
>
> > * *
>
> > *Listen the screams for life! *
>
> > * *
> > *This is my first poem; I dedicate this poem to prominent butchers and
> > slaughter houses.
>
> >http://nicholasgomes.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/letter-to-butcher/
> >www.facebook.com/williamnicholasgomes
> > *
>
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WTF?
 
 
 


 
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 3:07 PM, William Gomes <williamgomes.org@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear butcher,


You were my friend of last, 27 years; I loved the meat you slaughtered.

 I wait for the meat and enjoyed the meat that you have slaughtered.

 I never taught the meat I had that comes to by table costing life.

 I never taught on the meat where I was dancing with bear

And drinks that caused a tragic end of some lives.

 

 My old friend, now I have to quite taking meat I f I want to live,

 So   I have to bye to you and your slaughter house.

 

My old friend the taste of the meat is not the same , I cannot take , I tried to take , I can fell the life still crying , begging for the life , while you slaughtered the lives , enjoying the art of killing.

 

 I am equally liable for the lives that you take because

I was the customer of your profession, so you are no more friends,

you are an ex friends and regular murder.

 

 

There is no problem although you are losing a customer, more than a friend,

I am customer to you.

 

There are many who will promote your service,

they will dance on your murder, bring professional logics, that meat is very essentials,

why you should keep murdering lives ,innocent lives ,

although the lives have done nothing to you and to your friends ,

it is their need or lust for meat and meats .

 

You are not alone my friends ,  there are some professionals , who wear nice dresses ,

 they do not have the sharp blades in their hands but they do have very sharp pen ,

 from the pen always the blood is shedding , they are worst then you ,

they  even do the trade of human dead bodies. They sell the stories of sufferings ,

they looks how badly someone injured ,

how badly someone can die and how excellently they can present the death ,

they keep selling dead bodies and you keep selling the meat of dead.

 So my friend, you are better and they are worst.

 

You compete with others but not with the animals that you

slaughter but they do slaughter the fellow human beings.

 

Some even inherent both killings human and animals ,

they are worst and they are the upper class my friend,

 your customers are the rich  people , poor people cannot think to buy your products ,

but my friends their products are poor and the customers are rich peoples .

You are better than them my friend, you never make the poor your products.

 

My friend, the upper class killers find out new

And throughout the olds in their business

 but my friend you are better you look for the old and matures ,

but you are a killer as they are.

 

The upper and lower or middle all are same.

The killers are same, the products and by products brings them benefits.

 

You are better my friend you tie and kill ,

they are worst they don't tie but silently kills that people can see but does nothing ,

 so they have a good gang to support them ,

 they brings people from Bengal and send to Himalayans and to slaughter their by products ,

they sought for 3000 , even some people get ready to sell their kidney ,

 they keep calling other slaughter

and seat in the board of directors in the east or west all slaughters are same .

 

 

My friend you please join them ,

they will fund you and some meat lovers will buy meat ,

 more meat and dance ,

 a mad dance more selling of your and their .

 

Keep killing and I will not be your friend or your friends friend.

Your friends will now take their pen to kill me,

you are better you will not take your sharp blade to kill me.

 

My friend keeps fighting with life near

the morgue they send a beast of Bengal to Himalayan.

 

You are better my friend.  You don't slaughter the dead,

but they do, it's the art of killing they have, but you don't have.

 

You are butcher but what I can call them,

 who are upper, class you or they.

Now tell me, butcher, what I should do?

who will judge or I will be judged?

Both of will keep practicing your art of killing but the time is coming,

the products and by products and your customers will do the same,

 what you do then or what you will do now?

 

Listen the screams, you killers!

 

Listen the screams for life!

 

This is my first poem; I dedicate this poem to prominent butchers and slaughter houses.


http://nicholasgomes.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/letter-to-butcher/

www.facebook.com/williamnicholasgomes

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On Oct 23, 3:07 pm, William Gomes <williamgomes....@gmail.com> wrote:


First, you need to learn how to write proper English if you
want to be a poet. If the slaughter is diseased there is an obligation
to get rid of it and if you ate the ' tasteless ' diseased meat that
is your fault, not the butchers
> *
> *
>
> *Dear butcher,*
>
> *
> *
>
> *You were my friend of last, 27 years; I loved the meat you slaughtered.*
>
> * I wait for the meat and enjoyed the meat that you have slaughtered. *
>
> * I never taught the meat I had that comes to by table costing life. *
>
> * I never taught on the meat where I was dancing with bear *
>
> *And drinks that caused a tragic end of some lives. *
>
> * *
>
> * My old friend, now I have to quite taking meat I f I want to live,*
>
> * So   I have to bye to you and your slaughter house. *
>
> * *
>
> *My old friend the taste of the meat is not the same , I cannot take , I
> tried to take , I can fell the life still crying , begging for the life ,
> while you slaughtered the lives , enjoying the art of killing.*
>
> * *
>
> * I am equally liable for the lives that you take because *
>
> *I was the customer of your profession, so you are no more friends, *
>
> *you are an ex friends and regular murder.*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *There is no problem although you are losing a customer, more than a friend,
> *
>
> *I am customer to you.*
>
> * *
>
> *There are many who will promote your service, *
>
> *they will dance on your murder, bring professional logics, that meat is
> very essentials, *
>
> *why you should keep murdering lives ,innocent lives , *
>
> *although the lives have done nothing to you and to your friends , *
>
> *it is their need or lust for meat and meats . *
>
> * *
>
> *You are not alone my friends ,  there are some professionals , who wear
> nice dresses ,*
>
> * they do not have the sharp blades in their hands but they do have very
> sharp pen ,*
>
> * from the pen always the blood is shedding , they are worst then you , *
>
> *they  even do the trade of human dead bodies. They sell the stories of
> sufferings , *
>
> *they looks how badly someone injured , *
>
> *how badly someone can die and how excellently they can present the death ,
> *
>
> *they keep selling dead bodies and you keep selling the meat of dead.*
>
> * So my friend, you are better and they are worst. *
>
> * *
>
> *You compete with others but not with the animals that you *
>
> *slaughter but they do slaughter the fellow human beings. *
>
> * *
>
> *Some even inherent both killings human and animals , *
>
> *they are worst and they are the upper class my friend,*
>
> * your customers are the rich  people , poor people cannot think to buy your
> products , *
>
> *but my friends their products are poor and the customers are rich peoples .
> *
>
> *You are better than them my friend, you never make the poor your products.
> *
>
> * *
>
> *My friend, the upper class killers find out new *
>
> *And throughout the olds in their business*
>
> * but my friend you are better you look for the old and matures , *
>
> *but you are a killer as they are. *
>
> * *
>
> *The upper and lower or middle all are same. *
>
> *The killers are same, the products and by products brings them benefits. *
>
> * *
>
> *You are better my friend you tie and kill , *
>
> *they are worst they don't tie but silently kills that people can see but
> does nothing ,*
>
> * so they have a good gang to support them ,*
>
> * they brings people from Bengal and send to Himalayans and to slaughter
> their by products , *
>
> *they sought for 3000 , even some people get ready to sell their kidney ,*
>
> * they keep calling other slaughter *
>
> *and seat in the board of directors in the east or west all slaughters are
> same .*
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
> *My friend you please join them , *
>
> *they will fund you and some meat lovers will buy meat ,*
>
> * more meat and dance ,*
>
> * a mad dance more selling of your and their .*
>
> * *
>
> *Keep killing and I will not be your friend or your friends friend. *
>
> *Your friends will now take their pen to kill me, *
>
> *you are better you will not take your sharp blade to kill me. *
>
> * *
>
> *My friend keeps fighting with life near *
>
> *the morgue they send a beast of Bengal to Himalayan. *
>
> * *
>
> *You are better my friend.  You don't slaughter the dead, *
>
> *but they do, it's the art of killing they have, but you don't have. *
>
> * *
>
> *You are butcher but what I can call them,*
>
> * who are upper, class you or they.*
>
> *Now tell me, butcher, what I should do? *
>
> *who will judge or I will be judged?*
>
> *Both of will keep practicing your art of killing but the time is coming, *
>
> *the products and by products and your customers will do the same,*
>
> * what you do then or what you will do now? *
>
> * *
>
> *Listen the screams, you killers!*
>
> * *
>
> *Listen the screams for life! *
>
> * *
> *This is my first poem; I dedicate this poem to prominent butchers and
> slaughter houses.
>
> http://nicholasgomes.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/letter-to-butcher/www.facebook.com/williamnicholasgomes
> *
>
>  Letter to butcher.pdf
> 61KViewDownload

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Dear butcher,


You were my friend of last, 27 years; I loved the meat you slaughtered.

 I wait for the meat and enjoyed the meat that you have slaughtered.

 I never taught the meat I had that comes to by table costing life.

 I never taught on the meat where I was dancing with bear

And drinks that caused a tragic end of some lives.

 

 My old friend, now I have to quite taking meat I f I want to live,

 So   I have to bye to you and your slaughter house.

 

My old friend the taste of the meat is not the same , I cannot take , I tried to take , I can fell the life still crying , begging for the life , while you slaughtered the lives , enjoying the art of killing.

 

 I am equally liable for the lives that you take because

I was the customer of your profession, so you are no more friends,

you are an ex friends and regular murder.

 

 

There is no problem although you are losing a customer, more than a friend,

I am customer to you.

 

There are many who will promote your service,

they will dance on your murder, bring professional logics, that meat is very essentials,

why you should keep murdering lives ,innocent lives ,

although the lives have done nothing to you and to your friends ,

it is their need or lust for meat and meats .

 

You are not alone my friends ,  there are some professionals , who wear nice dresses ,

 they do not have the sharp blades in their hands but they do have very sharp pen ,

 from the pen always the blood is shedding , they are worst then you ,

they  even do the trade of human dead bodies. They sell the stories of sufferings ,

they looks how badly someone injured ,

how badly someone can die and how excellently they can present the death ,

they keep selling dead bodies and you keep selling the meat of dead.

 So my friend, you are better and they are worst.

 

You compete with others but not with the animals that you

slaughter but they do slaughter the fellow human beings.

 

Some even inherent both killings human and animals ,

they are worst and they are the upper class my friend,

 your customers are the rich  people , poor people cannot think to buy your products ,

but my friends their products are poor and the customers are rich peoples .

You are better than them my friend, you never make the poor your products.

 

My friend, the upper class killers find out new

And throughout the olds in their business

 but my friend you are better you look for the old and matures ,

but you are a killer as they are.

 

The upper and lower or middle all are same.

The killers are same, the products and by products brings them benefits.

 

You are better my friend you tie and kill ,

they are worst they don't tie but silently kills that people can see but does nothing ,

 so they have a good gang to support them ,

 they brings people from Bengal and send to Himalayans and to slaughter their by products ,

they sought for 3000 , even some people get ready to sell their kidney ,

 they keep calling other slaughter

and seat in the board of directors in the east or west all slaughters are same .

 

 

My friend you please join them ,

they will fund you and some meat lovers will buy meat ,

 more meat and dance ,

 a mad dance more selling of your and their .

 

Keep killing and I will not be your friend or your friends friend.

Your friends will now take their pen to kill me,

you are better you will not take your sharp blade to kill me.

 

My friend keeps fighting with life near

the morgue they send a beast of Bengal to Himalayan.

 

You are better my friend.  You don't slaughter the dead,

but they do, it's the art of killing they have, but you don't have.

 

You are butcher but what I can call them,

 who are upper, class you or they.

Now tell me, butcher, what I should do?

who will judge or I will be judged?

Both of will keep practicing your art of killing but the time is coming,

the products and by products and your customers will do the same,

 what you do then or what you will do now?

 

Listen the screams, you killers!

 

Listen the screams for life!

 

This is my first poem; I dedicate this poem to prominent butchers and slaughter houses.


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Conservatives and American Empire
by Tim Kelly, October 21, 2011

American conservatives who claim to value liberty and limited government but continue to take pride in the country's bloated military establishment would do well to remember Randolph Bourne's pithy declaration "war is the health of the state."

Conservatives will argue that the basic function of the state is to defend the country against foreign invasion or attack; therefore, allowing the government to make provisions for such exigent circumstances is necessary in a hostile world.

The problem with this argument is that not since the War of 1812 has the U.S. military been deployed to defend the country from foreign attack. The U.S. military, rather than being an instrument of national defense, has been used as an offensive weapon in an imperial project that goes back more than a century.

Now, many conservatives will dismiss the charge that the United States is an empire as left-wing rhetoric, but they must contend with the fact that many within their own ranks have openly boasted of the American Empire.

Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said in 2002, "People are coming out of the closet on the word 'empire.'" Krauthammer even boasted that America is "no mere international citizen. It is the dominant power in the world, more dominant than any since Rome." Robert Kagan has written of "The Benevolent Empire." Dinesh D'Souza, after writing in 2002 that "America has become an empire," approvingly added that it is "the most magnanimous imperial power ever."

Andrew Bacevich is one conservative who takes a skeptical view of America's global predominance. He ridicules the idea "that the promotion of peace, democracy, and human rights and the punishment of evil-doers, not the pursuit of self-interest, has defined the essence of American diplomacy." Bacevich believes the goal of the U.S. military has been "to achieve something approaching omnipotence," and he mocks the idea that such power in the hands of American officials "is by definition benign."

Many conservatives will counter such criticism by declaring "American exceptionalism." This is the notion that the United States is a uniquely virtuous nation, one committed to human rights, liberty, and peace; and therefore her government can pursue global hegemony without becoming a menace.

But a cursory look at history belies the claims of American benignity and moral superiority.

The truth is the United States has been one of the most expansionist and militaristic powers in history. It started out as thirteen states along North America's eastern seaboard and expanded across the continent in an orgy of ruthless conquest.

The U.S. government has also waged numerous wars since the close of the 19th century, none of which could be considered genuinely defensive.

Spain did not pose a threat to America in 1898, and yet she was attacked by the U.S. military and stripped of her empire. And the hundreds of thousands of Filipinos who perished resisting American rule in the "liberated" Philippines certainly did not threaten the peace and security of the United States.

Germany did not pose a threat to the United States in 1917. Indeed, Berlin was far more conciliatory than London in matters regarding sea travel and made strenuous efforts to maintain peaceful relations with the United States. But Woodrow Wilson's administration was openly Anglophile, and its declaration of neutrality in 1914 was a farce. Moreover, the country's financial elite were anxious for the U.S. to enter the war in order to socialize their exposure to the Triple Entente's wartime debts.

People can be forgiven for believing that America's direct participation in the Second World War was defensive, because it was a response to Japan's raid on Pearl Harbor and Nazi Germany's declaration of war. That, indeed, was the objective of Franklin D. Roosevelt's machinations in the run-up to America's entry. The fact is that neither Japan nor Germany wanted war with the United States in 1940 and 1941.

Hitler's government displayed remarkable forbearance in the face of repeated provocation by American warships in the North Atlantic. Japan was anxious to reach a modus vivendi with the United States in Asia, but President Roosevelt, viewing a confrontation with Japan as a way to gain entry into the war in Europe, imposed a series of trade embargoes designed to strangle her economy and thereby provoke an attack. As Henry Stimson, FDR's Secretary of War, wrote in his diary only a few days before the Pearl Harbor raid, "the question was how we should maneuver them [Japan] into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves."

During the Cold War the U.S. government launched offensives against North Korea and North Vietnam, but neither of those countries threatened the lives, liberties, or property of the American people. In more recent years, Panama, Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya have been subjected to aerial bombardment and invasions courtesy of the U.S. military, but none of those pigmy states threatened the American colossus.

U.S. officials justify America's globe-girdling hegemony as a necessary condition for the preservation of world peace and stability. Like the Roman Empire of the first century or the British Empire of the nineteenth, the United States is the "indispensable nation," standing taller and seeing further than all others. But even a superficial examination of the facts exposes such claims as delusional self-aggrandizement. The U.S. government is merely a group of very fallible people who have proven incapable of managing even domestic affairs, let alone the world. Far from giving Americans protection, the U.S. government's imperial foreign policy has been creating enemies in every corner of the world while debauching the currency, draining the treasury, and burdening future generations with crushing debt.

Perhaps the enthusiasm so many conservatives show for American militarism and adventurism abroad can be explained by their misunderstanding of the fundamental nature of the state.

As Murray Rothbard said, "the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large." It is naïve to expect a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats, largely shielded from public accountability, to provide something as ambiguous and vast as "national security" without turning the entire project into a giant pork-barrel scheme and making a general mess of things. But Rothbard was purged from the Right for his heresy of rejecting the Cold War consensus, and his libertarian insights were largely ignored by the postwar conservative movement.

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Palin endorses Ron Paul's position on international militarism

by Harold

Michael Krebs, Digital Journal 10/22/2011 In the wake of the killing of Libyan strongman Muammar Gaddafi, the anti-militarism sentiments of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul appear to be gaining ground with the GOP establishment, as Sarah Palin openly backed Paul's position. The controversial killing of Libya's Colonel Gaddafi has brought with it a wave of [...]

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Aww…Michelle Obama Learns How to Tweet…Everyone Clap (Video)

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Nothing can stop her now. Wonder what glorious tweets will come from Michelle? Maybe she'll tweet about what foods we are allowed to eat. More likely she will tweet Obama fluffers and beg for campaign cash or raffle off those $10,000 pictures.

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Halloween dilemma…

by dcgere

Luc wants to dress up as a princess / Photo courtesy LA Times

The princess costume and the trick-or-treat dilemma

From the LA Times: Glendora moms face a difficult choice on their son's choice of holiday garb: Protect his independent spirit or his tender feelings?

A few weeks ago, the 4-year-old boy's desire to trick-or-treat as a princess sparked a dilemma for his two moms, Anna and Louisa Villeneuve: Which do you honor and protect, your child's independent spirit or tender feelings?

"My first reaction was 'He wants to be a princess? We're there!' " said mama Anna. But almost everybody she talked with about Luc's intention told her, "Whoa; that's a bad, bad, bad idea."

For a girl who grew up wanting to dress like a boy, Luc's choice felt like a blow against stereotyping. "But I'm trying to leave my inner activist at home," she said, "and just do what's best for my son.  "It's one thing to say 'Son, you can be anything you want. Our society needs to be less uptight."

It's another thing entirely to consider how a boy in a princess dress will be treated when all the other boys are trick-or-treating in Superman or Power Rangers costumes.

"I want to encourage him to stand up and be himself," she said. "But my 4-year-old is too little and too fragile to know where the social boundaries are. And I don't want his feelings hurt on what should be one of his happiest nights."

All year long, he's been donning princess garb in the dress-up corner at his preschool. The adults in his life are fine with that. The little girls, however, have a problem with it. "Boys can't be princesses," they tell Luc, designating him a "wizard" instead.

The moms still haven't decided what costume they will allow Luc to wear.  Luc liked a "prince" costume, then wanted to be a "cannon".   Read the rest of the story here.

I do applaud these women for considering the social implications of a boy dressing as a princess.  It is not normal for  a young boy to want to dress up as a girl.  That is why it is the parents' responsibility to teach children the social boundaries of our society. And if they allow him to break those, they must be prepared to help young Luc deal with the consequences.

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