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The TSA was created as part of the Aviation and Transportation
Security Act, sponsored by Don Young in the United States House of
Representatives[2] and Ernest Hollings in the Senate,[3] passed by the
107th U.S. Congress, and signed into law by President George W. Bush

there is nothing wrong with keep the airports safe from terrorists

On Nov 21, 2:33 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Words of Wisdom from One of the TSA's Former GoonsPosted byBecky Akerson November 21, 2011 10:23 AM
> Everyone's most hated bureaucracy employed Bill Forster at Los Angeles International Airport for four years, until he finally quit because "working" for the TSA was "honestly the worst most embarrassing jobI have ever had…it is theater folks! They protect no one. Its [sic] an illusion. Want proof? Next time you travel bring with you two glass bottles. One broken and one intact. The broken one will be taken away. It is after all a weapon! You can break the other bottle AFTER they let you in with it."
> Meanwhile, Saturday marked ten years since warmonger and torturer George W. Bush signed the legislation hatching this satanic agency. How utterly shameful that we've tolerated demeaning, brutal tyranny for a decade now as bad as a rat's dying in your living room of old age, fat and contented.

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Subject: The Turkey Poem



The turkey shot out of the oven
And rocketed into the air,
It knocked every plate off the table
And partly demolished a chair.
It ricocheted into a corner
And burst with a deafening boom,
Then splattered all over the kitchen,
Completely obscuring the room.
It stuck to the walls and the windows,
It totally coated the floor;
There was turkey attached to the ceiling,
Where there'd never been turkey before.
It blanketed every appliance;
It smeared every saucer and bowl;
There wasn't a way I could stop it;
That turkey was out of control.
I scraped and I scrubbed with displeasure,
And thought with chagrin as I mopped,
I'd never again stuff a turkey
With popcorn that hadn't been popped.



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http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/11/18/occupy-wall-street-are-undocumented-putting-themselves-at-risk/

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http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/17/two-more-congressmen-demand-eric-holder's-immediate-resignation-46-now-calling-for-it/

The members of Congress demanding Holder's immediate resignation say
that Holder either lied during a May 3 House Judiciary Committee
hearing and in other dealings with Congress, or is blatantly
incompetent as the attorney general of the United States of America.

"No matter what the case is, he must be held responsible for knowing
and overseeing a department that executed Operation Fast and Furious.

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Words of Wisdom from One of the TSA's Former Goons
Posted by Becky Akers on November 21, 2011 10:23 AM

Everyone's most hated bureaucracy employed Bill Forster at Los Angeles International Airport for four years, until he finally quit because "working" for the TSA was "honestly the worst most embarrassing job I have ever had…it is theater folks! They protect no one. Its [sic] an illusion. Want proof? Next time you travel bring with you two glass bottles. One broken and one intact. The broken one will be taken away. It is after all a weapon! You can break the other bottle AFTER they let you in with it."

Meanwhile, Saturday marked ten years since warmonger and torturer George W. Bush signed the legislation hatching this satanic agency. How utterly shameful that we've tolerated demeaning, brutal tyranny for a decade now ­ as bad as a rat's dying in your living room of old age, fat and contented.
Lazarowitz (A good Irish American I'm sure) is just another example
of
far left extremists attacking our next President.
---
no ... he's a jew blasting RP because of his refusal to bend over for
israel.
he agrees with RP on most things except foreign policy.

"I am also anguished by the Big Government neoconservatives, whose
suggestions of bombing Iran have been based on false propaganda. Short-
term, present-oriented thinking is a common trait of the American
neoconservatives, who have been supporting the U.S. government's
expansion into foreign lands to force transitions from theocracy to
democracy among the Islamic states as though that will in some way
protect Israel, despite many years of history to the contrary.

Unfortunately, the neoconservatives have a blind religious faith in
the power and effectiveness of the State. In clinging to military
industrial complex socialism and bureaucracy, the neocons support the
U.S. government's interventions and foreign entanglements with other
governments, vicariously playing the role of "do-gooders" in a cops-
and-robbers fantasy world in the name of protecting the U.S. and
Israel. It is just as immoral to seize private wealth from American
Muslims, Christians and Atheists for redistribution to Israel as it is
immoral to seize private wealth from American Jews for redistribution
to Muslim states such as Egypt, Jordan and Pakistan. - SL

On Nov 21, 9:00 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Geesh what a load of crap!  The only thing ignorant, is the article written
> by Scott Lazarowitz,  which I could dissect each and every paragraph
> showing the ignorance and misplaced prevaricate lies and smear,  but again,
> Lazarowitz  (A good Irish American I'm sure)  is just another example of
> far left extremists attacking our next President.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:36 AM, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > *The Ignorance of Newt versus the Inalienable Rights of All
> > *by Scott Lazarowitz
>
> > During a recent Republican Presidential debate, former House Speaker Newt
> > Gingrich implied<http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/gop_and_tp_on_obamas_foreign_policy_s...>that he strongly disagrees with very important assertions of the
> > * Declaration of Independence*<http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm>:
> > "That all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator
> > with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the
> > pursuit of Happiness."
>
> > Additionally, like many people now, Gingrich seems to believe that there
> > should be a different set of laws for society when there is a "war"
> > underway. But the truth is, *war* is an artificial concept used by
> > collectivists and statists to rationalize the commission of criminal acts
> > of aggression against others and get away with it.
>
> > The truth is, there are really two kinds of behaviors in general:
>
> >    - Peaceful, non-aggressive behaviors, in which the people of a society
> >    act voluntarily amongst themselves, and under the rule of law that forbids
> >    physical aggression (except in a case of actual self-defense), theft, fraud
> >    and trespass; or
> >    - Non-peaceful, aggressive behavior that consists of the violation of
> >    others' persons or property. These are the crimes of society, which include
> >    theft and the initiation of aggression against others, terrorist acts, and
> >    the use of the State's armed apparatus to initiate violence against foreign
> >    peoples.
>
> > By "all men," the *Declaration* refers to *all of humankind* created
> > equal, and endowed with unalienable rights to life and liberty that are
> > inherent in all of us as human beings. The *Declaration* does not state
> > that such rights apply only to Americans. And "unalienable" (or
> > inalienable) means that such rights are not *given* to anyone by
> > government because they are inherent rights. If these basic, inherent
> > rights are not given to us by the State and its agents, then the State may
> > not take such rights away. And the Founders were very clear on the idea of
> > due process, which are very strict rules placed on the government to prove
> > its case against a suspect.
>
> > Gingrich disagrees with these basic points. He opposes the idea of
> > presumption of innocence. If Gingrich believes that the President, a CIA
> > officer, a soldier or general may have the power to be judge, jury and
> > executioner against someone, then he certainly couldn't believe in the idea
> > of inalienable rights.
>
> > Here is just one example of Gingrich's ignorance, joined by most of the
> > other Republican candidates for president, in reference to President
> > Obama's order to assassinate American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki without due
> > process, without trial or any evidence brought forward:
>
> > When asked by CBS News anchor Scott Pelley if, as President, Gingrich
> > would "sign that death warrant for an American citizen overseas,"
> > Gingrich's response<http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/gop_and_tp_on_obamas_foreign_policy_s...>was a
> > *correction *for Pelley. Gingrich declared that al-Awlaki *was* found
> > guilty, by "a panel that looked at it and reported to the president."
>
> > But such a panel and its findings have been kept secret<http://www.salon.com/2011/10/06/execution_by_secret_wh_committee/sing...>,
> > away from the scrutiny of al-Awlaki's counsel, a jury, Congress or the
> > American people. Gingrich believes that, if the government has told us that
> > someone is guilty of terrorism, without trial or even evidence brought
> > forth, then we must have a blind faith in these government officials that
> > they are telling the truth.
>
> > This is despite the fact that Obama never presented<http://news.antiwar.com/2011/09/30/cia-assassinates-two-american-citi...>actual evidence against al-Awlaki, just as George W. Bush never
> > presented evidence <http://www.fff.org/comment/com0905c.asp> of Osama bin
> > Laden's guilt <http://www.lewrockwell.com/rep2/obl-2001-interview.html>.
> > We should just believe them. Even the so-called killing of bin Laden by the
> > Navy SEALS might not have been true<http://lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts320.html>,
> > and bin Laden may actually already have died as early as 2001<http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts305.html>
> > .
>
> > So, are the war supporters and government expansionists really sure they
> > want such un-American, banana republic governmental powers to be in place?
> > At the recent debate, Gingrich<http://www.salon.com/2011/11/13/gop_and_tp_on_obamas_foreign_policy_s...>declared that, "If you engage in war against the United States, you are an
> > enemy combatant.  You have none of the civil liberties of the United
> > States…You cannot go to court."
>
> > Now, Gingrich is called, "Mr. Speaker" because he is fairly good at
> > speaking. But they do not call him "*Mr. Thinker*," that's for sure. You
> > see, like many others nowadays, he is assuming that, based on *someone's*determining that one is an "enemy combatant," therefore one has no civil
> > liberties. But it is those civil liberties, those inalienable rights to
> > life and liberty that includes presumption of innocence and due process,
> > which protect the individual from being falsely imprisoned or executed.
>
> > When you know that the Bush Administration knowingly<http://www.fff.org/comment/com1004d.asp>apprehended hundreds
> > of innocent people <http://www.fff.org/comment/com0905l.asp>, including children
> > and senile old men<http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/25/guantanamo-files-children...>,
> > at the beginning of their war against Afghanistan, and detained them
> > indefinitely without trial, evidence or even suspicion, and with more
> > innocents victimized by the Obama Administration<http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2010/03/02/the-black-hole-of-guantan...>as well – some of whom languished at Guantanamo prison for years – you have
> > to admit that these have been *crimes* committed by the agents of the
> > U.S. government against innocents.
>
> > And contrary to what the propagandists have been stating, the real purpose
> > of torturing presumably innocent people has been to extract false
> > confessions and to falsely implicate other innocents. (See here<http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/2009/09/30/a-truly-shocking-guantana...>,
> > here<http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/u-s-government-used-communist-...>and
> > here<http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/interrogation-experts-from-eve...>.).
> > Stating, "but we're at war," as do Newt Gingrich and other statist
> > proponents of this kind of banana republic society, is a simply juvenile
> > attempt at rationalizing the government's crimes.
>
> > Now, are you really sure you want to trust the President, military
> > officers and soldiers, and CIA officers – or local police, for that matter
> > – to decide that someone is a "terrorist," and then be his judge, jury and
> > incarcerator, and *executioner*? Do you trust these people under orders<http://lewrockwell.com/lazarowitz/lazarowitz30.1.html>of the likes of Obama, Janet Napolitano or Eric Holder to be the ones to
> > conclude that someone is a "terrorist," and then to be his judge, jury and
> > executioner? Already, some of these public officials<http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94799>have referred
> > to Tea Partiers <http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/lazarowitz6.1.1.html>as "terrorists<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/60421.html>."
>
> > And so we should believe that someone is a "terrorist" without any
> > evidence, because Barack Obama said so? Now, *there's* someone with
> > credibility. A President who has worked feverishly to bomb and destroy
> > Libya, only to have it come under al Qaeda rule. Or a President such as
> > Bush who bombed and destroyed Iraq, only to bring Iraq under rule of
> > repressive Islamic Sharia Law. We should trust these people to act as judge
> > and jury and to imprison those that such officials determine to be a
> > terrorist, despite the hundreds or thousands who had been swept up randomly
> > in Afghanistan and Iraq, falsely implicated, detained, tortured and
> > murdered?
>
> > And should we trust the young soldiers on the battlefield to make that
> > judgment? Remember, the brilliant George W. Bush has said that the whole
> > world is the battlefield now. And that includes the U.S., in which each
> > individual is treated like a criminal now, thanks to the TSA, DHS and
> > Patriot Act.
>
> > And should we trust soldiers, many of whom have been committing sexual
> > assaults <http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/01-9> against female
> > military personnel? Or those who have been committing sexual assaults
> > against other male military personnel, and trust their superior officers
> > who defend them<http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2011/04/03/the-military-s-secre...>?
> > Should we trust people of that ilk to determine that someone somewhere is a
> > "terrorist"? Or local police departments, many of which are<http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/law-disorder/etc/cron.html>
> > corrupt <http://www.lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w192.html> or have been
> > increasingly
>
> ...
>
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Maybe a small wager is in order? A dollar and a beer says you willl
be
saying, "President Gingrich" this time next year.
----
you're on!

On Nov 21, 12:46 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey PlainOl!
>
> Maybe a small wager is in order?   A dollar and a beer says you willl be
> saying, "President Gingrich"  this time next year.
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Gingrich More Electable Than Any Other Candidate
> > ---
> > hogwash ... history will prove you wrong
>
> > Newt is an unelectable asshole with poor judgement
>
> > On Nov 20, 9:34 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > November 15, 2011
> >http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/11/15/new_poll_shows_gingrich_...
> > > Poll Shows Gingrich More
> > > Electable<
> >http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/11/15/new_poll_shows_gingrich_...>A
> > > new McClatchy-Marist
> > > poll<
> >http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/11/15/130402/poll-gingrich-scores-bes..
> > .>finds
> > > Newt Gingrich is the strongest Republican presidential candidate when
> > > matched head to head against President Obama.
>
> > > Obama leads Gingrich by just two points, 47% to 45%. Mitt Romney is next
> > > closest, trailing Obama by 4 points, 49% to 44%. Ron Paul is the third
> > best
> > > bet for the Republicans right now, 8 points back from Obama, 49% to 41%.
>
> > > No other Republican is within single digits of the president.
>
> > >  Newt.2012.gif
> > > 16KViewDownload
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Ron Paul said Sunday he thinks flawed U.S. foreign policy "contributed
to" the causes that led to the September 11 terrorist attacks
---
I agree. Interventionism is nothing short of a pre-emptive attack
based on fear.

On Nov 21, 2:09 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Ron Paul: Flawed policies helped lead to 9/11By Lucy Madisonhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57328328/ron-paul-flawed-policies-helped-lead-to-9-11/?tag=contentBody%3BcbsCarousel(CBS News)
> Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Sunday he thinks flawed U.S. foreign policy "contributed to" the causes that led to the September 11 terrorist attacks, though he stopped short of saying the attacks were America's "fault."
> Paul, appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," said there was a "connection" between U.S. policies and the 9/11 attacks, and that "policies have an effect."
> But, he emphasized, "that's a far cry from blaming America."
> "I think there's an influence," Paul, a staunch Libertarian, told CBS' Bob Schieffer. "That's exactly what, you know, the 9/11 Commission said. That's what the DOD has said... That's what a lot of researchers have said. Just remember, immediately after 9/11, we removed the base from Saudi Arabia. So there is a connection."
> The longtime Texas congressman, whose popularity has recently seen an uptick in the GOP presidential polls, suggested that American military presence abroad fostered anti-American sentiment - which in turn led to actions against the American people.
> "You talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm, they say, 'Yes, we don't like American bombs to be falling on our country. We don't like the intervention that we do in their nations.' So to deny this, I think, is very dangerous - but to argue the case that they want to do us harm because we're free and prosperous, I think, is a very, very dangerous notion because it's not true."
> When asked if he was saying "it was our fault" that 9/11 happened, Paul said, no. "That's a misconstruing of what I'm saying," he replied.
> "America is you and I," Paul told Schieffer. "Wedidn't cause it. The average American didn't cause it. [But] if you have a flawed policy, it may influence it.
> "I'm saying the policy-makers' fault contributed to it," he added.
> Paul, who has long been vocal in his opposition to sending American troops abroad, argued that America should use diplomacy - not the military - to deal with countries like Iran.
> He also decried sanctions as "the initial step to war."
> "We have 12,000 diplomats. I'm suggesting that maybe we ought to use some of them," Paul said. "I think the greatest danger now is for us to overreact. This is what I'm fearful of. Iran doesn't have a bomb. There's no proof. There's no new information, regardless of this recent report. For us to overreact and talk about bombing Iran, that's much more dangerous."
> The candidate said he doesn't think there is any place in the world where it "helps" the United States to have forces stationed - not only because "we can't afford it," but also because, he said, "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and all our troops back at home.
> "I think a submarine is a very worthwhile weapon," Paul said. "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and [station] all our troops back at home. This whole idea that we have to be in 130 countries and 900 bases - now they've just invented a weapon that can hit any spot in the world in one hour. I mean, what's this idea? This is old-fashioned idea that you have to keep troops on 900 bases around the world. Makes no sense at all. Besides, we're bankrupt. We can't afford it any longer."
> The famously outspoken congressman added that he'd bring home troops even from Japan and South Korea. "Absolutely. And the people are with me on that. Because we can't afford it. It would save us a lot of money. All those troops would spend their money here at home," he said.
> Besides, he added, "Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it's a danger to our national defense. We can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense."http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57328328/ron-paul-flawed-policies-helped-lead-to-9-11/?tag=contentBody%3BcbsCarousel

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then you applaud Newt's declaration of war on Iran?

then we need to replace the word interventionist with warmonger and
imperialist.

thinking that America has the right to invade and occupy another
country as a pre-emptive measure is insanity.

one day the US will pay for it's obstruction with way more than 3k
American lives ... that day just might be sooner than you think

On Nov 21, 12:42 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think Gingrich's message should be taken seriously by those
> anti-American, anti-Western civilization Grand Muftis and the theological
> ruling elite in Iran.
>
> Again,  Good on Newt!
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 12:07 PM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > An offhand statement made five and a half years ago.
> > ---
> > November 19, 2011 forum in Des Moines, Iowa:
> >  "I agree entirely with Senator Santorum. I would say to the
> > government of Iran today, you have a very short time to solve this on
> > your own, and if you don't we will solve it for you. And we frankly
> > couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks. We're going to
> > get it done." - NG
>
> > On Nov 21, 9:59 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > So let me make sure I understand.   You have gone back to a statement
> > that
> > > Senator John McCain and Former House Speaker Gingrich made on July 17,
> > > 2006, dealing with the Syrian and Iranian internal interference of
> > > Lebanon,  and an off hand remark by McCain and Gingrich, that this could
> > be
> > > the beginning of World War III,  as somehow suppporting Gingrich as
> > pushing
> > > for war with Iran?
>
> > > An offhand statement made five and a half years ago.
>
> > > Come on PlainOl,  please tell me that this is not the basis of your
> > logic!
>
> > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:51 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Tell me what it is that you disagree with, that
> > > > Gingrich purports or stands for.
> > > > ----
> > > > I disagree with almost everything he says and supports.
>
> > > > example:
> > > > Looking to their American counterparts on Monday, Knesset members were
> > > > surprised at the solidarity and support being shown among key US
> > > > politicians.
> > > > Several top US political figures, including former House Speaker Newt
> > > > Gingrich (Rep.) called the current Middle East crisis the beginning of
> > > > "World War III" and said they were "gravely concerned" in an interview
> > > > on CNN's Larry King Live.
>
> > > > Gingrich, who called the crisis World War III in several interviews
> > > > over the weekend, said that the US and Israel were acting with much
> > > > restraint and that the US should shoot down Iranian planes sending
> > > > supplies to Lebanon.
> > > > "I have to say that I'm a bit nervous about what they mean," said MK
> > > > Danny Yatom (Labor). "To be honest, I'm a bit nervous about the US
> > > > intervening. Let them send us money, supplies... we can do the rest
> > > > ourselves."
> > > > Many MKs said that while they were happy to hear US politicians taking
> > > > a strong line in support of Israel, they were concerned about how US
> > > > intervention would play itself out.
> > > > "It is not World War III because there are no armies involved," said
> > > > Vice Premier Shimon Peres (Kadima). "They must remember that this is
> > > > an entirely different type of conflict."
> > > > "In many ways they are completely disconnected from what is going on
> > > > here," said MK Zahava Gal-On (Meretz). "They might make calls for
> > > > something that is completely unnecessary."
> > > > "They haven't learned anything and they don't understand anything. I
> > > > hope that they understand more about America than they understand
> > > > about the Middle East," said MK Colette Avital (Labor).
>
> > > > On Nov 21, 9:37 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > PlainOl';
>
> > > > > I have now watched the first video you sent,  (and I will get around
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > second video later today).
>
> > > > > Again,  I ask you,  what can you point to,  anything, that supports
> > your
> > > > > statement that Gingrich is pushing for war in Iran?  It is clearly
> > not in
> > > > > this video,  and EVERYTHING that Gingrich says in this video,  I
> > agree
> > > > with.
>
> > > > > What in the video,  other than he is appearing on Shalom TV,  do you
> > > > > disagree with?
>
> > > > > Specifics please.   Tell me what it is that you disagree with, that
> > > > > Gingrich purports or stands for.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:31 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Newt Gingrich is a warmonger and a propagandist for zionist fascism
> > > > > > that supports military intervention in the middle east.
> > > > > > He should already be political history.
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RtJYib1O4g
> > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtqrpAkmP6Y
>
> > > > > > On Nov 21, 9:05 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > How sad for you PlainOl'.
>
> > > > > > > I suggest you take another look at Gingrich.
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:12 AM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Newt's decision making making abilities are impaired and bound
> > to
> > > > > > > > fail.
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 20, 9:40 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Gingrich: The "smartest, most electable conservative in the
> > race"
>
> > > > > > > > > Posted by NN&V Staff
> > > > > > > > > <http://nevadanewsandviews.com/archives/author/admin>on Nov
> > > > 10th,
> > > > > > 2011
>
> > > > > > > > > *(Charlie Smith/Time for Newt)* – "Smartest guy in the
> > room." "A
> > > > > > genius."
> > > > > > > > > "Brilliant." "Fantastic to listen to." "I would love to see
> > him
> > > > > > debate
> > > > > > > > > Obama."
>
> > > > > > > > > "But he can't win."
>
> > > > > > > > > If you're like me, every time Newt Gingrich's name comes up,
> > > > this is
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > kind of thing you hear. Conservatives love him. He's clearly
> > the
> > > > > > smartest
> > > > > > > > > guy on the stage and the candidate best suited to take the
> > fight
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > Obama.
> > > > > > > > > So why does he always get ignored?
>
> > > > > > > > > Because the liberal media and the establishment have been
> > > > telling us
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > for a year that Newt Gingrich can't possibly win. Well, I'm
> > here
> > > > to
> > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > > you that all that's changed. Newt Gingrich is now leading
> > Mitt
> > > > > > Romney in
> > > > > > > > > Iowa.
>
> > > > > > > > > *Consider this email your permission slip to do what you've
> > > > wanted
> > > > > > to do
> > > > > > > > > all along: get behind Newt Gingrich and fight for the
> > smartest,
> > > > most
> > > > > > > > > electable conservative in the race.*
>
> > > > > > > > > Mitt Romney came up with the idea that became the template
> > for
> > > > > > Obamacare.
> > > > > > > > > Without Mitt Romney, there IS no Obamacare. Rick Perry thinks
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > > > heartless if you don't want to give free college tuition to
> > > > illegal
> > > > > > > > aliens.
> > > > > > > > > (He actually SAID that!) And Herman Cain is a nice man, but
> > he
> > > > can't
> > > > > > win
> > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > this point.
>
> > > > > > > > > That leaves Newt, right where he's been all along,
> > articulating
> > > > real
> > > > > > > > > solutions that will allow us to take our country back, turn
> > this
> > > > > > economy
> > > > > > > > > around and make us freer, stronger, and safer as a country.
>
> > > > > > > > > Just stop with me a second and think about something: Next
> > Fall,
> > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > > > going to be a Presidential debate between Obama and the GOP
> > > > nominee.
> > > > > > Who
> > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > you want to be in it?
>
> > > > > > > > > Mitt Romney? The guy who has taken different positions on
> > every
> > > > > > single
> > > > > > > > > major issue?
>
> > > > > > > > > Rick Perry, the guy who can't articulate his positions, and
> > when
> > > > he
> > > > > > does,
> > > > > > > > > seems to offend conservatives every time he talks?
>
> > > > > > > > > Herman Cain?
>
> > > > > > > > > The answer is clear: Newt Gingrich. He will absolutely wipe
> > the
> > > > floor
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > Obama. He won't be cowed, he knows policy better, and he has
> > the
> > > > > > backbone
> > > > > > > > > to tell it like it is. He has the guts to say to the American
> > > > people,
> > > > > > > > > "President Obama has failed."
>
> > > > > > > > > As the leading pro-Newt SuperPAC, we're going to go into the
> > > > states
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > rally the activists, and build the organization Newt needs
> > to win
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > nomination and beat Obama in the Fall.
>
> > > > > > > > > The media and the establishment don't get to pick our
> > nominee.
> > > > We do.
>
> > > > > > > > > Will you join us?
>
> > > > > > > > > It's time.
>
> > > > > > > > >  Newt.2012.gif
> > > > > > > > > 16KViewDownload
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Ron Paul: Flawed policies helped lead to 9/11
By Lucy Madison

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57328328/ron-paul-flawed-policies-helped-lead-to-9-11/?tag=contentBody%3BcbsCarousel
(CBS News) 

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul said Sunday he thinks flawed U.S. foreign policy "contributed to" the causes that led to the September 11 terrorist attacks, though he stopped short of saying the attacks were America's "fault."

Paul, appearing on CBS' "Face the Nation," said there was a "connection" between U.S. policies and the 9/11 attacks, and that "policies have an effect."

But, he emphasized, "that's a far cry from blaming America."

"I think there's an influence," Paul, a staunch Libertarian, told CBS' Bob Schieffer. "That's exactly what, you know, the 9/11 Commission said. That's what the DOD has said... That's what a lot of researchers have said. Just remember, immediately after 9/11, we removed the base from Saudi Arabia. So there is a connection."

The longtime Texas congressman, whose popularity has recently seen an uptick in the GOP presidential polls, suggested that American military presence abroad fostered anti-American sentiment - which in turn led to actions against the American people.

"You talk to the people who committed it and those individuals who would like to do us harm, they say, 'Yes, we don't like American bombs to be falling on our country. We don't like the intervention that we do in their nations.' So to deny this, I think, is very dangerous - but to argue the case that they want to do us harm because we're free and prosperous, I think, is a very, very dangerous notion because it's not true."

When asked if he was saying "it was our fault" that 9/11 happened, Paul said, no. "That's a misconstruing of what I'm saying," he replied.

"America is you and I," Paul told Schieffer. "We didn't cause it. The average American didn't cause it. [But] if you have a flawed policy, it may influence it.

"I'm saying the policy-makers' fault contributed to it," he added.

Paul, who has long been vocal in his opposition to sending American troops abroad, argued that America should use diplomacy - not the military - to deal with countries like Iran.

He also decried sanctions as "the initial step to war."

"We have 12,000 diplomats. I'm suggesting that maybe we ought to use some of them," Paul said. "I think the greatest danger now is for us to overreact. This is what I'm fearful of. Iran doesn't have a bomb. There's no proof. There's no new information, regardless of this recent report. For us to overreact and talk about bombing Iran, that's much more dangerous."

The candidate said he doesn't think there is any place in the world where it "helps" the United States to have forces stationed - not only because "we can't afford it," but also because, he said, "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and all our troops back at home.

"I think a submarine is a very worthwhile weapon," Paul said. "I believe we can defend ourselves with submarines and [station] all our troops back at home. This whole idea that we have to be in 130 countries and 900 bases - now they've just invented a weapon that can hit any spot in the world in one hour. I mean, what's this idea? This is old-fashioned idea that you have to keep troops on 900 bases around the world. Makes no sense at all. Besides, we're bankrupt. We can't afford it any longer."

The famously outspoken congressman added that he'd bring home troops even from Japan and South Korea. "Absolutely. And the people are with me on that. Because we can't afford it. It would save us a lot of money. All those troops would spend their money here at home," he said.

Besides, he added, "Those troops overseas aggravate our enemies, motivate our enemies. I think it's a danger to our national defense. We can save a lot of money cutting out the military expenditures that contribute nothing to our defense."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57328328/ron-paul-flawed-policies-helped-lead-to-9-11/?tag=contentBody%3BcbsCarousel
fundamentalist Christians would have people stoned to death
---
that would be the muzzies and jews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nuCETPrGtY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrCLeN03tuI

On Nov 21, 1:08 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 10:56 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fundamental Islam threatens our very way of life.
> > They want us dead.
>
> And yet fundamentalist Christians would have people stoned to death
> the same exact way for the same exact crimes.

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Ron Paul is surging, an Iowa and New Hampshire front-runner and powerful third-party possibility
By Brent Budowsky - 11/21/11 10:04 AM ET

There are now multiple polls that show Ron Paul has gained support and has a legitimate chance to come in first or second in Iowa and New Hampshire. I would now call Ron Paul one of three front-runners in both Iowa and New Hampshire alongside Mitt Romney and a third candidate, currently Newt Gingrich. If Ron Paul wins Iowa, which he might, all bets are off. Also, most analysts miss the fact that many states have open systems where independents, and in some cases Democrats, can vote for a Republican nominee. This could give a further boost to Paul.

It is now time to give Ron Paul the attention he deserves in debates and throughout the political community.

For Paul this presents good news and new challenges as his positions are given the kind of wider attention I have called for. For example, his foreign policy positions could help him attract independents and some Democrats in open primary states, along with some Republicans, but they also conflict with the majority Republican view.

The campaign gets very interesting if Newt Gingrich joins Herman Cain, Rick Perry and Donald Trump in collapsing, which would give Paul a head-to-head contest with Romney.

I am not predicting Ron Paul is nominated, I am suggesting he deserves to be treated with the respect of now being a serious contender to win first or second place in Iowa and New Hampshire. I have always predicted that Paul will ultimately be one of three finalists for the Republican nomination, which will become a three-person race, with Ron Paul one of the three.

At a minimum Ron Paul is now a force to be reckoned with. His support has surged in multiple polls. His fundraising will probably surge even more. He has the potential to be a kingmaker if he is the third Republican left at the convention with no candidate having a majority of delegates.

No doubt about it, a Ron Paul third-party candidacy would now be very formidable.

It may be that before this is done, one of the most important questions in American politics will be whether Paul runs as a third-party candidate, especially if the race is between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Fasten your seatbelts.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/194791-ron-paul-is-surging-an-iowa-and-new-hampshire-front-runner-and-powerful-third-party-possibility

Michele Bachmann pledges to ban "all forms of pornography" if elected president
By Kevin Hoffman Fri., Jul. 8 2011 at 8:24 AM

Michele Bachmann just became the first GOP presidential candidate to pledge to ban "all forms of pornography" if elected president in 2012.

Bachmann signed the promise yesterday in order to secure the endorsement of Bob Vander Plaats, an influential Iowa activist who is the CEO of The Family Leader. Vander Plaats is asking candidates who want his blessing to sign a 14-point document that targets homosexuality, Sharia law, and porn.

While much of the document is aimed at restricting gay rights, bullet No. 9 is pointed squarely at heterosexuals:

That's a lot to unpack! But you can bet that it involves closing strip clubs, adult book stores, adult advertising, X-rated movies, birth control pills, pre-marital sex, and probably heavy petting.

The U.S. Supreme Court has issued numerous rulings upholding that just about every kind of pornography imaginable is protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution, the very document that the Tea Party and its Queen hold so sacred.

We await Bachmann's further utterance in the hope she's more specific than "I know it when I see it."

UPDATE: The pledge Bachmann signed also claims black families were better off during slavery than under the Obama presidency.

http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/07/michele_bachmann_pornography.php

GOP Debate Reveals Depraved and Deluded Political Class
by Tim Kelly, November 21, 2011

The most recent GOP foreign policy debate revealed the depraved and deluded state of America's political class. There was a time when U.S. presidents sought plausible deniability for things like torture and assassination; now such sordid practices are openly supported by candidates seeking the country's highest elected office.

Several candidates were asked their opinion regarding waterboarding. Herman Cain said that he was against torture, but that he believed waterboarding to be an "enhanced interrogation technique" and therefore permissible. Michele Bachmann indicated she would authorize waterboarding. Rick Perry also supported it, saying, "This is war. That's what happens in war. And I am for using the techniques, not torture, but using those techniques that we know will extract the information to save young American lives. And I will be for it until I die."

Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman, to their credit, came out unequivocally against waterboarding, with Paul calling it illegal and immoral. When asked directly what he thought constituted torture, Paul said "waterboarding is torture."

Paul is correct. Waterboarding is torture. It is an interrogation technique that causes severe pain in the form of reflexive choking and gagging. Subjects are strapped to a board, and their heads are covered. Water is then poured over their faces. The subjects cannot breathe through the mouth or nose, and death will occur if the procedure is not interrupted.

Now, torture is illegal under U.S. and international law. It is also banned by the Geneva Convention on Torture, a treaty to which the United States is a signatory. President Ronald Reagan signed it in 1988, and the U.S. Senate ratified it in 1994; it therefore has the force of law in the United States. By advocating an interrogation technique which is clearly torture, Cain, Perry, and Bachmann are supporting the violation of the very law they would be sworn to uphold should one of them win the presidency.

When the subject of assassination came up, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich signaled their strong support. Gingrich elaborated, "If you engage in war against the United States, you are an enemy combatant. You have none of the civil liberties in the United States, you cannot go to court."

On this point, Gingrich is simply wrong. When an American citizen is accused of waging war against the United States, he stands accused of treason. Treason is specifically mentioned in the Constitution under article III, section 3, which reads, "Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

The mere accusation of treason (or terrorism) does not relieve government officials of their obligation to abide by the law, which requires due process.

Romney and Gingrich are essentially supporting the position taken by the Obama administration, which asserts that the executive branch has the authority to kill any person they claim is a really bad person (i.e., "enemy combatant" or "terrorist") without having to go through the inconvenience and expense of following the Constitution.

Paul condemned the policy of assassinating alleged terrorists and pointed out the cognitive dissonance afflicting those who think the government shouldn't run the health-care system, yet somehow believe it should be entrusted with the power to kill U.S. citizens without due process. As Paul said, "You want to live within the law and obey the law. Because otherwise, it's going to be very bad for all of us."

When the subject of Iran's suspected nuclear program was brought up, several of the candidates came out in support of more confrontational policies, going so far as to advocate war.

Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich strongly advocated going to war. Romney said if "crippling sanctions" fail, military action should be used because a nuclear-armed Iran is "unacceptable." Gingrich argued for "maximum covert operations to block and disrupt the Iranian program, including taking out their scientists, including breaking up their systems, all of it covertly, all of it deniable."

Rick Santorum was in full agreement with Gingrich, saying "You know there have been scientists turning up dead in Russia and Iran, there have been computer viruses, there have been problems at their facility." He then added: "I hope that the U.S. has been involved."

Herman Cain did not advocate attacking Iran directly but said the United States should increase economic sanctions, deploy ballistic missile warships, and provide further support to groups inside the country that seek the overthrow of the government.

The CIA and the Israeli Mossad have reportedly been supporting Jundullah and Mujahedeen-e Kalq as part of a covert assault on Iran. These are militant organizations responsible for acts of terrorism that have killed and maimed scores of Iranians, many of them civilians.

Ron Paul was the lone voice in support of the rule of law, pointing out the president's obligation to obey the constitutional requirement for a congressional declaration of war. He also counseled a more diplomatic approach to Iran and compared the current situation to the one just before the United States launched its invasion of Iraq in 2003.

So the nation was treated to the spectacle of U.S. presidential candidates (Ron Paul excepted) openly calling for acts of terrorism and subversion against a sovereign nation and for the murder of foreign scientists because they are working for Iran's nuclear energy program.

Now, the recent hoopla regarding Iran is in response to an IAEA report that makes some rather dubious accusations regarding her nuclear program. The report offers nothing new and is really just a regurgitation of an old story involving a stolen Iranian laptop allegedly containing nuclear-weapons information.

Tehran has long denied the accusations, and indeed the U.S. intelligence community has supported the Iranian denial, producing in 2007 a National Intelligence Estimate that concluded, "We judge with high confidence that in fall 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." Iran is a signatory to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, which expressly acknowledges her right to develop nuclear power.

What really sticks out in this issue is the presumption that a nuclear-armed Iran would represent such a clear and present danger that a military response by the United States and or Israel would be necessary. As Ron Paul has pointed out,

Even our own CIA has no evidence that they're working on a weapon. Just think of what we went through in the Cold War. All through the '60s, we were standing up against the Soviets. They had like 30,000 nuclear weapons with intercontinental missiles. Just think of the agitation and the worrying that a country might get a nuclear weapon some day. And just think of how many nuclear weapons surround Iran. The Chinese. The Indians. The Pakistanis. The Israelis. All these countries have nuclear weapons. Why wouldn't it be natural that they might want a weapon? Internationally, they'd be given more respect. Why should we write people off? In the '50s, we at least talked to them. At least our leaders and Reagan talked to the Soviets. What's so terribly bad about this?

While Messrs. Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, and Cain call for war against Iran, they ignore the strategic realities of the region and are seemingly oblivious to the political and economic risks involved.

They claim a nuclear-armed Iran would pose an existential threat to Israel. But Israel possesses a formidable land- and sea-based nuclear arsenal and is more than capable of deterring Iran. Moreover, Tehran has no conceivable interest in sparking a wider war in the Middle East. The country is heavily dependent on oil exports and is already suffering economically from existing trade sanctions as well as from her government's domestic policies.

It is important to remember that Iran's paramount leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, has issued a fatwa banning the production of nuclear weapons. The fact that Iran has not produced or acquired a nuclear weapon in all these many years is an indication his prohibition is sincere.

The best way to contain the spread of nuclear weapons is not to threaten with attack every nation that has the capability to produce them. South Korea, Brazil, Argentina, Taiwan, Switzerland, and Japan could produce nuclear weapons in a few months if they decided to do so. Why haven't they?

Well, the answer could be they don't fear an attack from the United States. Why not put offers of peace, commerce, and honest friendship on the table rather than threats of annihilation?

The U.S. government's approach to Iran has been to make demands while demonizing her government and disregarding the country's valid security concerns. After all, Iran is surrounded by hostile powers, all coveting her vast energy resources. U.S. saber rattling only increases tensions and anxiety, thus creating the conditions for wider nuclear proliferation.

Could Iran's leadership really be blamed if, after observing the fate that befell Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi, they concluded that getting a hold of a few nukes might be a good insurance policy against an attack by the United States?

The background to last Saturday's GOP debate is the decline of the American Empire. But these candidates appear deluded and oblivious to the changing international order, clinging to pretensions of global dominance that can no longer be justified by the objective conditions.

America is in the fifth year of an economic meltdown and continues to rely heavily on foreign creditors ­ namely China ­ and monetary inflation to pay for its empire and bloated military. Retrenchment and liquidation are the only way to recovery, but policymakers and powerful special-interest groups insist on implementing various stopgap measures, all of them inflationary and terribly destructive.

The GOP candidates, save for Ron Paul, belong to a political class that is venal, corrupt, and incapable of adapting to new conditions. They fiddle with trivialities, platitudes, and vapid clichés while Rome burns. I do not intend this to be a partisan criticism, for it applies just as much to the Democrats as it does to the Republicans.

The clever and agile French diplomat Charles Talleyrand is reputed to have said of the restored Bourbons, "They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing." The same can be said of America's political class, which insists on continuing the U.S. government's bellicose and bankrupting foreign policy, all the while promoting a domestic tyranny.

http://www.fff.org/comment/com1111r.asp
We'd have progress if Republitards weren't so anti-science
---
cite reference

and pro-God...
---
Man creates god in his own imagination to suit his own needs in order
to find a grand purpose for life

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_or_what_created_God#ixzz1eN64ktuo

On Nov 21, 1:24 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 9:57 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Bob Schieffer is a communist.   Communists are up in arms right now,  as
> > conservatives choose who is going to be our next President, because they
> > too see the writing on the wall.   The March to Eutopia is over,  and folks
> > like Studio,  Bob Schieffer and other Anti-Americans  hate it.
>
> Communism enjoys a higher favorability rating than the Republitard
> Congress!
>
> It's only you who seek Eutopia in Republitard ideology.
> I seek progress. Nothing more, nothing less.
> We'd have progress if Republitards weren't so anti-science and pro-
> God... their God of course... you know, the one who hasn't worked in
> 6,000 after creating the universe, and seeks praise for not working?

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Yep.
Fox News is pure evil in every regard.

Numerous polls have proven that Fox News viewers are the most
uninformed bunch of people there are of any news organization.
The higher ratings they enjoy just proves that most people are
entertained by Fox, but not enlightened by them.

They are the diet coke of news... tastes horrible, and you need twice
as much of it to be half as infomed.
That's why their on 24 hours a day so they can repeat the same lie
over as many times as possible.
Like the old saying goes; repeat a lie often and enough, and people
start believing it's the truth.
And you also have Fox News.

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Yes someone else posted it in a group which is where I found it

I think the pak stars blog is run by someone in Asia who simply reposts everything circulated in a google group called political forum

On Monday, November 21, 2011,  <duncan.balsbaugh@thomsonreuters.com> wrote:
> Bruce - The story you have posted "Obama May Have a Criminal Past" is not authored by me, it appears to be some internet hoax to have it attributed to me, could you please take down my name and my company's association – otherwise Reuters lawyers will need to get involved. I did some research and found that this article was first posted by blogger Rick Perry April 1 2011 – thank you (PS do you know how I can get the same message to Pak Starz blog? – thx)
>circulated in a groupm
>  
>
> Duncan Balsbaugh
> Senior Market Analyst -Government Bonds/S&P Futures
>
> Thomson Reuters
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> O (617) 856-2589
>
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>
>  

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On Nov 21, 9:22 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Then why would I want to move there then
> ---
> because you like taxing people

What other countries do is their own business.
No one is suggesting that other countries pay the US income taxes.

> That's more of a place for your kind to live and enjoy.
> ---
> living with 3rd world animals is out of the question

So then, zero taxes creates 3rd world animals?
And that's what you want for the US?

Like I said, if you want zero taxes, move to Somalia.
The US (and I) have zero interest in making Somalia pay income taxes.

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On Nov 21, 9:57 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bob Schieffer is a communist.   Communists are up in arms right now,  as
> conservatives choose who is going to be our next President, because they
> too see the writing on the wall.   The March to Eutopia is over,  and folks
> like Studio,  Bob Schieffer and other Anti-Americans  hate it.

Communism enjoys a higher favorability rating than the Republitard
Congress!

It's only you who seek Eutopia in Republitard ideology.
I seek progress. Nothing more, nothing less.
We'd have progress if Republitards weren't so anti-science and pro-
God... their God of course... you know, the one who hasn't worked in
6,000 after creating the universe, and seeks praise for not working?

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Moonbats tend to keep the mosquito population in check.... but you
know Republitards, they love sqeeters!
I wouldn't doubt some idiot Republitard (with nothing better to do of
course) would try to make it their state bird in some states?

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On Nov 21, 10:47 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Studio,
>
> Wall Street can only buy and sell that which is given up for sale. If
> you do not like Wall Street the answer is quite simple.... tell the
> holders of your money, 401K plans, union pension funds, banks... that
> you do not want your money invested or interest paid on any
> deposits...POOF!!!  Wall Street is gone. It is VERY simple.

What you don't seem to understand is that EVERYONE would have to do
that, and that's not so simple.

So again, you have a solution for other people, it's just not a
solution for you.

There is no I in US.... unless of course you're thinking about
changing the name to Independent States Individual of America (ISIS)?

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On Nov 21, 10:56 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Fundamental Islam threatens our very way of life.
> They want us dead.

And yet fundamentalist Christians would have people stoned to death
the same exact way for the same exact crimes.

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On Nov 21, 10:05 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How sad for you PlainOl'.
>
> I suggest you take another look at Gingrich.

lol, yeah take a look at how he tries to sell his books every time he
makes a speech!

loloser!

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Studio,
 
There are two people on this board who can attest to my paying off wagers.  As a matter of fact, I have bet the same wager for the last ten years.   As a side note, I bought both individuals that I reference a $100.00 gift card to the Outback Resturant Chain,  (e.g.;  Outback, Bonefish,  Carrabbas, Lee Roy Selmon's,  etc.)  when I lost. 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:00 PM, studio <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:46 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey PlainOl!
>
> Maybe a small wager is in order?   A dollar and a beer says you willl be
> saying, "President Gingrich"  this time next year.

Make it a large wager... neither one of you will pay up anyway.

Republitard Translation:
I have no intention of paying any wagers. But I want bragging rights
of how smart I was in only betting a $1 when he loses.

Come on Keith, put your money where your mouth is for once in your
life.

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Once again,  poor, poor, pitiful Stu-Stu-Studio.....
 
No, the poll is about "Congress", of which is a bicameral body,  and includes both the Senate and the House. 
 
Again,  polls and math (and critical thinking)  is not your thing Studio.....
 


 
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, studio <tlack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 21, 11:10 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Studio,
>
> The lead or upper chamber of Congress is controlled by the DEMOCRATIC,
> not the Republican Party... One would have thought you knew
> that...obviously not.

And one would have thought you'd know it's the lower house they're
talking about!
But keep on playing ignorant, that's what your party stands for anyway.

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On Nov 21, 1:46 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey PlainOl!
>
> Maybe a small wager is in order?   A dollar and a beer says you willl be
> saying, "President Gingrich"  this time next year.

Make it a large wager... neither one of you will pay up anyway.

Republitard Translation:
I have no intention of paying any wagers. But I want bragging rights
of how smart I was in only betting a $1 when he loses.

Come on Keith, put your money where your mouth is for once in your
life.

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On Nov 21, 11:10 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Studio,
>
> The lead or upper chamber of Congress is controlled by the DEMOCRATIC,
> not the Republican Party... One would have thought you knew
> that...obviously not.

And one would have thought you'd know it's the lower house they're
talking about!
But keep on playing ignorant, that's what your party stands for anyway.

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On Nov 21, 6:22 am, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

In yet another poll on the front page of MSN.com, it asks the
question:
US deficit talks crumble

Automatic spending cuts loom as Congressional leaders trade blame
of their inability to agree on a deficit overhaul.

Who's to blame for the deficit mess?

Congress for playing politics instead of tackling the hard issues.
60 % agree 58,205 votes

The GOP for trying to protect the rich from taxes.
25 % agree 24,575 votes

Democrats for refusing to cut Medicare & Social Security.
7 % agree 7,294 votes

I'm not sure, but the deficit needs to be fixed.
8 % agree 8,360 votes
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So there you go; there are more people who are "Not Sure", than blame
Democrats.
And yet these idiots think the American people are going to elect
another Republitard billionaire to protect the rich!???

They'd rather elect Not Sure than a Republitard.

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Geesh this is so true! 
 
Thanks for sharing Travis!!


 
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
 

 
 
 

****** 23 ADULT TRUTHS ******

1 Sometimes I'll look down at my watch 3 consecutive times
And still not know what time it is.

2. Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument
When you realize you're wrong.

3. I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap
When I was younger.

4. There is great need for a sarcasm font.

5. How the hell are you supposed to fold a fitted sheet?

6. Was learning cursive really necessary?

7. Map Quest really needs to start their directions on # 5.
I'm pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

8. Obituaries would be a lot more interesting if they told
You how the person died.

9. I can't remember the last time I wasn't at least kind-of
Tired.

10. Bad decisions make good stories.

11. You never know when it will strike, but there comes a
Moment at work when you know that you just aren't going to
Do anything productive for the rest of the day.

12. Can we all just agree to ignore whatever comes after
Blue Ray? I don't want to have to restart my
Collection...again.

13. I'm always slightly terrified when I exit out of Word
And it asks me if I want to save any changes to my ten-page
Technical report that I swear I did not make any changes to.

14. I keep some people's phone numbers in my phone just so I
Know not to answer when they call.

15. I think the freezer deserves a light as well.

16. I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given
Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Miller Light
Than Kay.

17. I wish Google Maps had an "Avoid Ghetto" routing option.

18. I have a hard time deciphering the fine line between
Boredom and hunger.

19. How many times is it appropriate to say "What?" before
You just nod and smile because you still didn't hear or
Understand a word they said?

20. I love the sense of camaraderie when an entire line of
Cars team up to prevent a jerk from cutting in at the front.
Stay strong, brothers and sisters!

21. Shirts get dirty. Underwear gets dirty. Pants? Pants
Never get dirty, and you can wear them forever.

22. Even under ideal conditions people have trouble locating
Their car keys in a pocket, finding their cell phone, and
Pinning the Tail on the Donkey - but I'd bet everyone can
Find and push the snooze button from 3 feet away, in about
1.7 seconds, eyes closed, first time, every time.

23. The first testicular guard, the "Cup," was used in
Hockey in 1874 and the first helmet was used in 1974. That
Means it only took 100 years for men to realize that their
Brain is also important.

Ladies.....Quit Laughing.

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Hey PlainOl!
 
Maybe a small wager is in order?   A dollar and a beer says you willl be saying, "President Gingrich"  this time next year. 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:51 AM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
Gingrich More Electable Than Any Other Candidate
---
hogwash ... history will prove you wrong

Newt is an unelectable asshole with poor judgement

On Nov 20, 9:34 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> November 15, 2011http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/11/15/new_poll_shows_gingrich_...
> Poll Shows Gingrich More
> Electable<http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/11/15/new_poll_shows_gingrich_...>A
> new McClatchy-Marist
> poll<http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/11/15/130402/poll-gingrich-scores-bes...>finds
> Newt Gingrich is the strongest Republican presidential candidate when
> matched head to head against President Obama.
>
> Obama leads Gingrich by just two points, 47% to 45%. Mitt Romney is next
> closest, trailing Obama by 4 points, 49% to 44%. Ron Paul is the third best
> bet for the Republicans right now, 8 points back from Obama, 49% to 41%.
>
> No other Republican is within single digits of the president.
>
>  Newt.2012.gif
> 16KViewDownload

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