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I couldn't say it any better than the following:

http://www.newstimes.com/default/article/Revisionist-ride-of-Paul-Revere-1411862.php

No moderate or Independent I know would ever vote for someone so self
absorbed.

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I was only able to produce 2 clones before a vasectomy.
They know who is who and have become great anarchists ... ready for
the takeover!

On Jun 6, 1:38 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Dear plainol...:  You've got things figured-out correctly.  Is there
> any way to clone you?  — J. A. A. —
>
> On Jun 6, 10:17 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >  All of this language comes from the Southern Poverty Law Center,
> > which the media just adores
> > ---
> > we know who they represent
>
> > On Jun 4, 10:09 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > "... a key political strategy of the Marxist left (which we used to call the lunatic left ) is to attempt to censor all criticisms of their socialistic policies by claiming that their critics are haters, extremists, racists, etc.  Rather than debating the issues, as much of the non-lunatic left does, they simply call people names.  Every conservative and libertarian organization is routinely labeled as far right, anti-government, the same language that is used for every crackpot who commits murder in public.  All of this language comes from the Southern Poverty Law Center, which the media just adores since they, too, are part of the lunatic left for the most part.
> > > "This strategy comes down to this:  It is essentially the language of a two-year-old who, since he is incapable of engaging in much of a reasoned debate, simply says, You re mean.  Waaaaaaaaaaah. -- Thomas DiLorenzo

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So the most decent social arrangement is to make more and more people
totally dependent on the government for their food, shelter and
clothing. That is his idea of a decent social arrangement. Whatever
happened to the concept of personal responsibility. That to me is the
most decent social arrangement. Good for the person and also for the
society as well, something that welfare states are not.

plainolamerican wrote:
> "It was, in a way, strange for me to be part of the Reagan
> Administration. I was then and still am an unabashed defender of the
> welfare state, which I regard as the most decent social arrangement
> yet devised." - PK
>
> On Jun 5, 7:37 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>> Krugman: More War!Posted byLew Rockwellon June 5, 2011 06:34 PM
>> Writes Andrew Penn Fitzgerald:
>> Actual quote from Krugman on This Week this morning: If we had the threat of war, had a military buildup, you d be amazed at how fast this economy would recover.
>> And here I thought that we were currently waging offensive war in at least four countries with troops in more than 150 foreign countries and currently spend more on our military than every other country in the world combined. Clearly we just need to do more in the militarist direction (similar to Krugman s other advice that we throw more money down the bailout hole to make it work).
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these women
need some 2nd ammendment lessons instead
---
not our problem

On Jun 6, 3:41 pm, Sharon Fuentes <oneforentr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OMG....That doctor should lose its license.  That is sick.  But let's be
> real...all men want a lady in public and a racy woman in the bedroom. It is
> not specific to Islam.  Spousal infidelity is not linked to how a person
> performs in the privacy of the bedroom, it has more to do with a person's
> character and mental status.  But I draw a huge line in the sand that you
> have to be a whore to keep your husband from beating you.  Maybe these women
> need some 2nd ammendment lessons instead.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >     <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/author/r0nin/> Muslim women take
> > whore lessons.
> > <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/muslim-women-take-whore...>
> > *Ronin <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/author/r0nin/>* | 6 June, 2011
> > at 7:03 am | Categories: Abuse of Power<http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=62866>,
> > human interest <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=3959>,
> > Indoctrination <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=427504>, Islam
> > Sucks! <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=8256698>, Malaysia<http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=2496>,
> > muslim Intolerance <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=729230>, Muslim
> > on Muslim Violence <http://doctorbulldog.wordpress.com/?cat=1368703> |
> > URL:http://wp.me/p1NPg-7ag
>
> > *So let me break this down. Muslim men cannot be trusted, blame their
> > women, the women agree with the untrustworthy men and prostitute themselves.
> > Sounds more than a little stupid to me.** *
>
> > June 6, 2011, AFP
> > A group of Malaysian women launched an "Obedient Wife Club" on Saturday,
> > urging members to be "whores in bed" and obey their husbands to curb social
> > ills such as divorce and domestic violence.
> > *-Hate to break it to ya babe but violence and islam go together like
> > obama and lying, the two can never be separated.*
>
> > Islamic group Global Ikhwan held the club's inaugural meeting in Kuala
> > Lumpur, giving women tips on how to keep their men satisfied and prevent
> > them from straying.
>
> > "A good wife is perceived to be prim and proper - you just take care of the
> > children - but not much is emphasised on fulfilling sexual needs of the
> > husband. If he needs sex, obey him," Rohaya Mohamad, the club's
> > vice-president said.
>
> > Dr Rohaya, 46, said 30 per cent of the club members were in polygamous
> > marriages while the rest were in monogamous relationships and that the club
> > was open to non-Muslims.
> > *-Minions always claim these scam organizations are open to non-muslims
> > but try and attend one and see how tolerant your new friends really are.**
> > *
>
> > "You must satisfy your husband. A good wife should be a whore in bed," said
> > Dr Rohaya, whose husband has three other wives.
> > *-For a doctor she is a real idiot. If she was following her own advice
> > her husband would have only a single wife. I guess she needs better whore
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Her career might have blossomed but her intelligence obviously has not.
Was sh lying as much then as she does now?

Keith In Köln wrote:
> Hey Dick!
>
> So what's new? This vile, hatefu, Anti-American rhetorical spewing
> woman has been causing trouble all of her adult life; her claim to
> fame? Wasserman Schultz was in charge of a bake sale in Palm Beach back
> in 1996 and from there, her political career has blossomed. Once again,
> just one more reason to stop Gerrymandered Congressional Districts.
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 11:38 PM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net
> <mailto:rhomp2002@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> She keeps trying to add more and more.
>
> http://jerseynut.blogspot.com/2011/06/debbie-wasserman-schulz-high-octane.html
>
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OMG....That doctor should lose its license.  That is sick.  But let's be real...all men want a lady in public and a racy woman in the bedroom. It is not specific to Islam.  Spousal infidelity is not linked to how a person performs in the privacy of the bedroom, it has more to do with a person's character and mental status.  But I draw a huge line in the sand that you have to be a whore to keep your husband from beating you.  Maybe these women need some 2nd ammendment lessons instead.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:



Muslim women take whore lessons.

So let me break this down. Muslim men cannot be trusted, blame their women, the women agree with the untrustworthy men and prostitute themselves. Sounds more than a little stupid to me.

June 6, 2011, AFP
A group of Malaysian women launched an "Obedient Wife Club" on Saturday, urging members to be "whores in bed" and obey their husbands to curb social ills such as divorce and domestic violence.
-Hate to break it to ya babe but violence and islam go together like obama and lying, the two can never be separated.

Islamic group Global Ikhwan held the club's inaugural meeting in Kuala Lumpur, giving women tips on how to keep their men satisfied and prevent them from straying.

"A good wife is perceived to be prim and proper - you just take care of the children - but not much is emphasised on fulfilling sexual needs of the husband. If he needs sex, obey him," Rohaya Mohamad, the club's vice-president said.

Dr Rohaya, 46, said 30 per cent of the club members were in polygamous marriages while the rest were in monogamous relationships and that the club was open to non-Muslims.
-Minions always claim these scam organizations are open to non-muslims but try and attend one and see how tolerant your new friends really are.

"You must satisfy your husband. A good wife should be a whore in bed," said Dr Rohaya, whose husband has three other wives.
-For a doctor she is a real idiot. If she was following her own advice her husband would have only a single wife. I guess she needs better whore lessons. Read more of this post

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Personal Secession – The Way to Freedom
by Michael S. Rozeff

http://lewrockwell.com/rozeff/rozeff355.html

"If we actually want freedom and not slavery, we cannot have one government for all. Freedom and one government for all are inconsistent with one another. They contradict one another. To have one government and simultaneously to have freedom is an impossibility.

"To arrive at greater freedom, one has to have the freedom to remove the manacles imposed by a government that presumes to be the government for all. One has to be able to opt out of government laws. One has to be able to secede personally from a government.

"Personal secession manifests one's personal freedom to choose a government (or no government) of one's desires, by oneself or in association with other people."


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Freedom is always illegal!

When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we have any possibility of being free.
John,

I certainly don't want you repeating your fallacies.

On 06/06/2011 12:04 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
Dear J. Ashley:  I read you reply, below, in the 'lead-in' to my posts.  I replied to this at another location you are sure to see. Forgive me for not repeating things, here.  — J. A. A. — 
 
On Jun 4, 9:38 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote: 
John,  1) You wrote, "Since the Secret Service seems more inclined to go along with the 'protocol' of ritual, than they are inclined to obey their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution..."  Where can one find the oath "to uphold the Constitution" you continue to claim Secret Service members have sworn to uphold?  As far as I have been able to find, agents are sworn to sacrifice their life for the President and be �worthy of trust and confidence.� I am hoping your superior intellect can point me in the right direction.  2) If you are looking for "true American patriots" you won't find them among any of the folks you mention in this diatribe.  3) You should look into the proper usage of "(sic)." Just because you placed "President" in quotes before using it does not make its usage appropriate.  On 06/04/2011 02:12 PM, NoEinstein wrote:          
Memorial Day rituals include watching TV broadcasts from the Capital lawn.  There, thousands of smiling people sway to the patriotic music while feeling good about the sacrifices made by so many thousands of men and women to keep our country free.  Military officers in pristine uniforms carry our Stars and Strips.  The sameness of such solemn rituals helps maintain the delusion that all things are� well in this country.  Instead of active revolts�like author Dick Morris manages to bypass advocating in his book�Americans have their �fighting instincts� placated by harmless �bombs bursting in air�.  The fact is, such fireworks displays are little more than loud eye-candy that effectively cause most American�s to figure the battles have been fought.  But has any �war� to right our country�s course been won? 
 
Dick Morris consistently misses the point when he figures the needed �revolt� to save the USA, economically and socially, can be won while saving the failed rituals that brought this country to the brink of ruin in the first place.  He talks about some vague �conservative candidate� winning the 2012 Presidential race� against Barack Obama. Morris, like most at Fox News, smiles so broadly in talking about the 2012 race for President, that he, effectively, is endorsing having an unconstitutional� Manchurian Candidate President from Kenya, who is THE most hurtful man to the USA in our entire history, get a� �second chance� at the White House. 
 
I almost gag each time Barack Obama bounces down the steps of Air Force One�every bit as well as Fred Astaire could have done.  At the bottom of the plane�s stair our �President� (sic) is greeted by saluting, smiling soldiers.  Those are caught in the God Damned ritual of looking up to whatever crook happens to be squatting in the White House.  None of those soldiers, not even generals, have yet to honor their sworn oaths to�  ï¿½protect this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic.�  The vote is still out whether Barack Obama can qualify as a domestic enemy.  *** Unless the US Secret Service says, definitively, that Obama is� domestic, then I side with the thousands of computer savvy graphics experts who know that all LAYERED PDF files are contrived documents.  And if Barack Obama, indeed, presented such a contrived �long form� birth certificate, then he should be hanged for TREASON on that fact alone!  Since the Secret Service seems more inclined to go along with the �protocol� of ritual, than they are inclined to obey their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, every compliant member of the Secret Service looking the other way to W. H. criminality is giving aid and comfort to the enemy�treason.  A lot of strong, and should have been smarter men, are going to hang� unless one of those men is moral enough to DO what is right for America, and to crap-on any ritual that would do otherwise! 
 
The reason Fox News and other media outlets play down Obama�s contrived citizenship in this country is because all of those know that nothing would shoot-down faster, the (G. D.) rituals of our unconstitutional two party political system, and the spaced-out (in time and place), unconstitutional presidential primaries.  Our country would forever be changed, not by me, but by Donald Trump.  He�s the first �public figure� brave enough to point out that Barack Obama isn�t� lily white.  Sarah Palin, reportedly, has urged Trump to consider running as an independent.  I want ALL serious candidates for President to run as independents!  That way they can say to HELL with the wasteful, unconstitutional and immoral political primaries! Instead of spending billions on the primaries, the candidates would only need to raise, like, five million dollars each to support the needed preparation for the several, aired presidential debates and the nationally televised personal interviews (Barbara Walters and Katie Couric excluded).  The advent of their being TVs in every home has shot-to-hell any rationale for having a bunch of FOOL presidential candidates crisscrossing the country to press-the-flesh with typically apathetic voters.  Making unkeepable promises to those same disparate voters borders on bribery.  ï¿½Vote for ME, and I will do this for you!� is the promise that got Obama elected (gag).  But never more!  It will only take one or two other public figures, with the strength of character of Donald Trump, to �fire the SECOND shot heard round the world.�  ï¿½Revolt�, Dick Morris!  ï¿½Revolt�, Bernie Goldberg!  ï¿½Revolt�, Rick Santorum!  ï¿½Revolt�, Sarah Palin!  ï¿½Revolt� all true American patriots who are out there! 
 
It�s appropriate to honor our military on Memorial Day.  I think it would be nice to have a few people be vocal regarding my spending fifteen years of my life Penning and Polishing my New Constitution of the USA.  Over the past few years, I�ve written essays totaling more words than the novel �War and Peace.�  The theme of most of those could be: �Economic doom or Capitalist prosperity�!  Read my book touting the latter cure for our woes.  The simple cures are the best! 
 
Respectfully submitted, 
 
� John A. Armistead �  Patriot 
 
AKA NoEinstein on Google�s sci.physics news group. 
 
http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/eb... 
 --        Freedom is always illegal!  When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we have any possibility of being free. 
 

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Muslim women take whore lessons.

So let me break this down. Muslim men cannot be trusted, blame their women, the women agree with the untrustworthy men and prostitute themselves. Sounds more than a little stupid to me.

June 6, 2011, AFP
A group of Malaysian women launched an "Obedient Wife Club" on Saturday, urging members to be "whores in bed" and obey their husbands to curb social ills such as divorce and domestic violence.
-Hate to break it to ya babe but violence and islam go together like obama and lying, the two can never be separated.

Islamic group Global Ikhwan held the club's inaugural meeting in Kuala Lumpur, giving women tips on how to keep their men satisfied and prevent them from straying.

"A good wife is perceived to be prim and proper - you just take care of the children - but not much is emphasised on fulfilling sexual needs of the husband. If he needs sex, obey him," Rohaya Mohamad, the club's vice-president said.

Dr Rohaya, 46, said 30 per cent of the club members were in polygamous marriages while the rest were in monogamous relationships and that the club was open to non-Muslims.
-Minions always claim these scam organizations are open to non-muslims but try and attend one and see how tolerant your new friends really are.

"You must satisfy your husband. A good wife should be a whore in bed," said Dr Rohaya, whose husband has three other wives.
-For a doctor she is a real idiot. If she was following her own advice her husband would have only a single wife. I guess she needs better whore lessons. Read more of this post

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UK: Man Gets Suspended 6-Month Sentence for Stuffing Ham Into Shoes of Muslim Worshipers

doctorbulldog | 6 June, 2011 at 10:31 am | Categories: Multiculturalism, Muslim whining | URL: http://wp.me/p1NPg-7ai

Sheesh!  Given the obviously pro-muzzie bias in the following article, you would have thought the guy was a pedophile or something:

Racist who filled Muslims' shoes with ham as they prayed in a mosque walks free from court

DailyMail.co.uk  -  6 June 2011

A racist thug who stuffed ham into the shoes of Muslim worshippers at a mosque has escaped a jail term.

Jamie Knowlson, 30, also draped slices of the meat - which Muslims are banned from eating - on railings outside the mosque as his victims prayed inside.

He was then caught on CCTV hurling abuse at worshippers after they confronted him over his sacrilegious act.

Islam teaches its followers to avoid pig meat as it makes them impure and unclean.

Knowlson initially told police the stunt was a drunken joke but later admitted that he was fully aware of the offence his actions would cause.

He pleaded guilty to causing racially or religiously aggravated harassment and could have been jailed for up to two years.

But walked free from Bristol Crown Court with a suspended six-month prison sentence because he had returned to the mosque to apologise for his actions.

Sentencing, Her Honour Judge Carol Hagen said: 'It is difficult to imagine a more offensive incident.

Uhm...  How about the UK's banning of crosses?  What about the Red Cross's banning of Christmas displays?  Those actions seem pretty offensive to Christians.  Just saying...

'Not only the fixing of meat to railings but aggravated, in my view, that members of the mosque were inside praying at the time.'

The court heard that Knowlson, from Kingswood, Bristol, targeted the Al-Baseera mosque in the St Judes area of the city which is used by more than 2,000 Somali Muslims every week.

He crept to the mosque from nearby Redwood House homeless shelter on January 9 this year - putting ham in footwear and on railings outside the building as worshippers prayed.

CCTV footage showed him returning to the shelter, where he was confronted by the mosque's caretaker Abdi Djmaa.

As Mr Djmaa returned to the mosque he heard shouts of 'the next visit will be harder', 'bad meat' and 'girls' coming from the direction of the building.

David Hunter, prosecuting at Bristol Crown Court, said it had been a premeditated attack specifically targeted at the Muslim community.

The court heard that shamed Knowlson had returned to the mosque to apologise after the hate crime.

Ian Halliday, defending, said: 'This was a brutal, misconceived, drunken prank.'

He returned to the mosque and offered his apologies in person.

Knowlson sat in tears as he was handed a six-month suspended sentence  and 150 hours of unpaid work.
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Are the feds torturing the Patriot Act for location data?

By Timothy B. Lee Published about 4 hours ago

It's hard to imagine a Senator making a blunter statement than Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) made in the heat of the Patriot Act reauthorization fight last month: "When the American people find out how their government has secretly interpreted the Patriot Act," he said, "they will be stunned and they will be angry." Wyden is in a position to know. As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, he receives classified briefings from the executive branch. And in recent years, three other current and former members of the Senate—Mark Udall (D-CO), Dick Durbin (D-IL), and Russ Feingold (D-WI)—have made similar comments.

These statements are puzzling because the explicit powers Congress has given to the government are already quite broad. For example, we've extensively covered the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 and the rapid increase in the use of National Security Letters since the enactment of the Patriot Act. Apparently, the government has such an appetite for information about Americans that it has felt the need to push even these quite generous boundaries.

The government's activities are shrouded in secrecy, so we can't be sure what the senators are referring to. But the evidence suggests that the Obama administration is using Section 215 of the Patriot Act—a provision that gives the government access to "business records"—as the legal basis for the large-scale collection of cell phone location records.

What we know

It seems clear that the senators' concerns relate to Section 215 of the Patriot Act. As Ars alumnus Julian Sanchez ably explains in a recent paper for the Cato Institute, Section 215 gives the government the power to obtain "business records" without a showing of probable cause. The debate over section 215 has largely focused on library records, but the Patriot Act's definition of a "business record" extends to any "tangible thing."

When Congress considered limiting the use of Section 215 orders to terrorism investigations in 2009, it ran into stiff opposition from the Obama administration. Sen. Durbin wasn't happy about this. "The real reason for resisting this obvious, common-sense modification of Section 215 is unfortunately cloaked in secrecy," he said. He suggested that this secrecy was inconsistent with "transparency, accountability, and fidelity to the rule of law and our Constitution"

An even more direct statement came from Sen Feingold. He noted that Patriot Act supporters had claimed in 2005 that Section 215 had never been misused. "They cannot make that statement now," he said. "They have been misused." Unfortunately, he said, the details were classified.

So in 2009, at least two Senators believed that Section 215 of the Patriot Act was being abused. Two years later, in the midst of a debate about again extending Section 215 authority, two other Senators complained about classified Patriot Act abuses. It's not a big leap to suppose these comments all refer to the same government activity.

Every step you take

So what's the government doing? A growing body of evidence suggests the controversy is related to cell phone location data. Law enforcement officials have become increasingly reliant on this kind of information. In a recent paper on the subject, Stephanie K. Pell and Christopher Soghoian tell the story of the Scarecrow Bandits, a gang that committed a string of bank robberies in the Dallas area. FBI agents captured the gang by examining cell phone location records and identifying phones that had made calls near several of the banks that were robbed.

In a lengthy blog post, Julian Sanchez recently laid out the evidence tying the Section 215 controversy to the government's appetite for location data.

First, Wyden recently unveiled legislation that would require a warrant for the feds to acquire geolocation data. The bill would establish the "exclusive means" for obtaining cell phone location information; it nevertheless goes out of its way to specify that location data may not be obtained using Section 215. This is puzzling since there's no particular reason to think Section 215 would be used in this way. But maybe Sen. Wyden knows something we don't.

Second, Sanchez notes that Sen. Udall has repeatedly warned about Section 215 giving the government "unfettered" access to "a cell phone company's phone records." Two things are notable about this phrasing: first, it specifically mentions cell phone, not wireline, records. And second, it refers to a company's records, rather than records related to some individual.

The obvious conclusion is that the government has been claiming that geolocation information—most likely, data about which cell phone tower users are near at any given time—is a "business record" that can be obtained under section 215. By treating this information as the records of the cell phone company rather than the personal information of subscribers, the government sidesteps the need to show that any particular customer is suspected of a crime.

More transparency needed

Clearly, law enforcement officials need a process for obtaining location data. Reasonable people can disagree about the proper standard of review. And obviously, for surveillance to be effective, some operational details need to be kept secret.

But without knowledge of the basic facts—what kind of information is being collected, how much, and with what procedural safeguards—it's impossible to have an informed public debate. Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) recently unveiled privacy legislation that would raise the standard for government access to location data. The Pell and Soghoian paper suggests a different framework for regulating government access. It's impossible to have an intelligent debate about these or other options if we don't know what the government is already doing.

Fortunately, the ACLU is on the case. Last week, it filed a Freedom of Information Act request seeking documents related to the Bush and Obama administration's legal interpretations of Section 215 of the Patriot Act. FOIA is a slow and cumbersome process, and the Obama administration will undoubtedly fight the ACLU's efforts. But if the request succeeds, it will give the American public some of the information it needs to have a well-informed debate.

Update: To be clear, Section 215 of the Patriot Act allows information to be collected in an intelligence context. In contrast, the Leahy bill and the Pell/Soghoian proposal both reform law enforcement access to location data. So neither proposal would directly affect the use of Section 215.

 

 


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John,

It is obvious you want to fight the good fight. It is also obvious you are not equipped to do so. You continually infer that which does not exist.

Secret Service agents are not "executive or judicial officers" of either "the United States or of the several states." Therefore, you contention that Secret Service agents shall be bound by Article VI to support the Constitution is incorrect.

By the way, Article VI, paragraph three (properly quoted) states, "The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
Dear J. Ashley:  I don't have the "existing Constitution" committed to memory.  So, I had to scan such to locate Article VI.  "... all executive and judicial officers, both of the USA and the several states shall be bound by oath or affirmation to support this constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the United States."  That OATH requires supporting that the USA is a REPUBLIC. As soon as Barack Obama started appointing czars and making executive orders pushing the USA toward socialism and communism, all officers, such as the Secret Service, are bound by the Constitution to ARREST his skinny ass for treason!  Tens of thousands in our military have died fighting socialist and communist nations.  So, why won't any one fight the grave enemy bastard who is in our midst?  It's because people in government value their identity with... power.  Doing WRONG makes one seem more powerful than doing right, "because the glory in doing right must always be shared with its unspoken moral imperative."  Jonathan, for a shallow anarchist like you, you seem incapable of understanding that the spirit of the overall Constitution has deference over any "authorization".  The Founding Fathers erred, big time, when they just assumed the laws and procedures passed and approved wouldn't run counter to this most simple premise: "Fair play and democracy shall have supremacy in the USA!"  Think about the simple premise, guy.  So far, you can't see the forest for the trees! — J. A. Armistead — Patriot 
 
On Jun 4, 7:49 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com> wrote: 
John,  You have certainly lived up to your moniker this time.  Article III, Section 1: "The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish."  How can something specifically enumerated in the Constitution be unconstitutional?  On 06/04/2011 03:37 PM, NoEinstein wrote:   > Dear plainol...: The Federal Government, especially the court system, 
has been disregarding the Constitution for over a century.  If there is a disagreement, the only thing the Supreme Court is authorized to do is to send things back to CONGRESS to be resolved.  Nothing in the Constitution grants one justice more total power than Congress! Therefore the Supreme Court is Unconstitutional... by RITUAL.  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �  Patriot On Jun 3, 3:11 pm, plainolamerican<plainolameri...@gmail.com>  wrote: 
Does the federal government's authority to regulate interstate commerce rule, or does the powers granted to the states clause rule? --- what states rights? that was resolved in 1865 ... sorta it's time for another showdown since it's obvious that the feds pick and choose their responsibilities and powers 
 
On Jun 2, 3:11 pm, NoEinstein<noeinst...@bellsouth.net>  wrote: 
 
No, MJ!  Every day, the US Supreme Court is finding interpretations that will allow this, but not "that".  Does the federal government's authority to regulate interstate commerce rule, or does the powers granted to the states clause rule?  That, supposedly, will determine the constitutionality of Obama Care.  As I've explained: The Senate was included ONLY because of the small states' extortion (blackmail). A Representative Republic is PURE; an oligarchy, such as the US Senate, is unfair, undemocratic and thus UNCONSTITUTIONAL.  Like our Manchurian Candidate... "President" (gag!), Obama�s being in the White House makes him no less a TREASONOUS bastard!  If you want 100 senile, career politicians to run things, then why not propose a constitution without a House of Representatives?  For running a government, I'll take the fair and democracy-like House, over our drag-on-government US Senate every time!  Harry Reid should be out of a job!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �  Patriot On Jun 2, 9:25 am, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote: 
Perhaps we have highlighted (again) yet another of your difficulties. When you ignore common definitions of words, it is difficult to convey your message in any meaningful way. Constitutional, as noted previously is of or by the Constitution. The Senate is constitutional -- by definition. Regard$, --MJ "[Democracy] is a fraudulent term used, often by ignorant persons but no less often by intellectual fakers, to describe an infamous mixture of socialism, graft, confiscation of property and denial of personal rights to individuals whose virtuous principles make them offensive" -- Westbrook Pegler, popular columnist of the 1930s and '40s.At 08:38 PM 5/26/2011, you wrote:MJ:  What "definition" is that?  That an anti-democracy and anti- Republic oligarchy has more power than the former two?  The US senate is THE most corrupt band of career politicians on planet Earth!  We could do better by just giving the vote to the first 100 people to cross Main Street!  ï¿½ J. A. Armistead �  Patriot On May 26, 1:32 pm, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote: 
Again, Constitutional is of or by the Constitution. The Senate is constitutional -- by definition. Until the removal of the check with Amendment 17 (not properly ratified per Article V), the Senate was the 'representative' of the States -- those entities forming the United States (plural). Contrary to your insistence, the Constitution does not create this idea of mob rule to which you are so enamored and believe will *magically* correct ills. Regard$, --MJ Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is communistic ... Attitude toward law is that the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based on deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, or impulse, without restraint or regard to the consequences. Result is demagogism, license, agitation, discontent, anarchy. -- U.S. Army training manual No. 2000-25 (1928-1932)Dear MJ:  The Founding Fathers were BLACKMAILED into including a senate, because small states feared being exploited by larger states. The senate is an oligarchy that slaps-in-the-face our Representative Republic.  Since principles of FAIRNESS are so evident throughout the main body of the Constitution, then, the VICTOR in disputes has to be the side favoring fair play and democracy! The mere fact that the senate was included in the Constitution doesn't make that constitutional!  Just because 'laws' are passed doesn't make those constitutional, either.  The US Senate has been a drag of fair play and democracy from day one!  For the record, the US Supreme Court, wherein one justice has a power greater than Congress, or the People, is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!  Learn, if you can, MJ.  So far you seem committed to a lifetime of taking-over your flunked courses in how to think.  ï¿½ J. A. A. � On May 25, 9:43 am, MJ<micha...@america.net>  wrote: 
The US Senate, which was originally selected by the legislatures of the several states, was an ill conceived OLIGARCHY.  Since there has never been a parity of the population served by each senator, that means the USA has two conflicting political systems, and the oligarchy is the one which isn't FAIR.  Giving undue power to smaller population states slaps REPUBLIC ideas in the face.  So, the US Senate is and always has been, unconstitutional.The Senate -- by definition -- cannot be unconstitutional. What you (continue) fail to grasp is that the Constitution is/was an agreement between Sovereign States. The Senate is THEIR representative body. Amendment 17 curtailed yet another check on Federal power. Regard$, --MJ The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State. -- James Madison, Federalist Papers 
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Freedom is always illegal!

When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we have any possibility of being free.
Dear J. Ashley: I read you reply, below, in the 'lead-in' to my
posts. I replied to this at another location you are sure to see.
Forgive me for not repeating things, here. — J. A. A. —
>
On Jun 4, 9:38 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> John,
>
> 1) You wrote, "Since the Secret Service seems more inclined to go along
> with the 'protocol' of ritual, than they are inclined to obey their
> sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution..."
>
> Where can one find the oath "to uphold the Constitution" you continue to
> claim Secret Service members have sworn to uphold?
>
> As far as I have been able to find, agents are sworn to sacrifice their
> life for the President and be �worthy of trust and confidence.� I am
> hoping your superior intellect can point me in the right direction.
>
> 2) If you are looking for "true American patriots" you won't find them
> among any of the folks you mention in this diatribe.
>
> 3) You should look into the proper usage of "(sic)." Just because you
> placed "President" in quotes before using it does not make its usage
> appropriate.
>
> On 06/04/2011 02:12 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Memorial Day rituals include watching TV broadcasts from the Capital
> > lawn.  There, thousands of smiling people sway to the patriotic music
> > while feeling good about the sacrifices made by so many thousands of
> > men and women to keep our country free.  Military officers in pristine
> > uniforms carry our Stars and Strips.  The sameness of such solemn
> > rituals helps maintain the delusion that all things are� well in this
> > country.  Instead of active revolts�like author Dick Morris manages to
> > bypass advocating in his book�Americans have their �fighting
> > instincts� placated by harmless �bombs bursting in air�.  The fact is,
> > such fireworks displays are little more than loud eye-candy that
> > effectively cause most American�s to figure the battles have been
> > fought.  But has any �war� to right our country�s course been won?
>
> > Dick Morris consistently misses the point when he figures the needed
> > �revolt� to save the USA, economically and socially, can be won while
> > saving the failed rituals that brought this country to the brink of
> > ruin in the first place.  He talks about some vague �conservative
> > candidate� winning the 2012 Presidential race� against Barack Obama.
> > Morris, like most at Fox News, smiles so broadly in talking about the
> > 2012 race for President, that he, effectively, is endorsing having an
> > unconstitutional� Manchurian Candidate President from Kenya, who is
> > THE most hurtful man to the USA in our entire history, get a� �second
> > chance� at the White House.
>
> > I almost gag each time Barack Obama bounces down the steps of Air
> > Force One�every bit as well as Fred Astaire could have done.  At the
> > bottom of the plane�s stair our �President� (sic) is greeted by
> > saluting, smiling soldiers.  Those are caught in the God Damned ritual
> > of looking up to whatever crook happens to be squatting in the White
> > House.  None of those soldiers, not even generals, have yet to honor
> > their sworn oaths to�  ï¿½protect this country from all enemies, foreign
> > and domestic.�  The vote is still out whether Barack Obama can qualify
> > as a domestic enemy.  *** Unless the US Secret Service says,
> > definitively, that Obama is� domestic, then I side with the thousands
> > of computer savvy graphics experts who know that all LAYERED PDF files
> > are contrived documents.  And if Barack Obama, indeed, presented such
> > a contrived �long form� birth certificate, then he should be hanged
> > for TREASON on that fact alone!  Since the Secret Service seems more
> > inclined to go along with the �protocol� of ritual, than they are
> > inclined to obey their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, every
> > compliant member of the Secret Service looking the other way to W. H.
> > criminality is giving aid and comfort to the enemy�treason.  A lot of
> > strong, and should have been smarter men, are going to hang� unless
> > one of those men is moral enough to DO what is right for America, and
> > to crap-on any ritual that would do otherwise!
>
> > The reason Fox News and other media outlets play down Obama�s
> > contrived citizenship in this country is because all of those know
> > that nothing would shoot-down faster, the (G. D.) rituals of our
> > unconstitutional two party political system, and the spaced-out (in
> > time and place), unconstitutional presidential primaries.  Our country
> > would forever be changed, not by me, but by Donald Trump.  He�s the
> > first �public figure� brave enough to point out that Barack Obama
> > isn�t� lily white.  Sarah Palin, reportedly, has urged Trump to
> > consider running as an independent.  I want ALL serious candidates for
> > President to run as independents!  That way they can say to HELL with
> > the wasteful, unconstitutional and immoral political primaries!
> > Instead of spending billions on the primaries, the candidates would
> > only need to raise, like, five million dollars each to support the
> > needed preparation for the several, aired presidential debates and the
> > nationally televised personal interviews (Barbara Walters and Katie
> > Couric excluded).  The advent of their being TVs in every home has
> > shot-to-hell any rationale for having a bunch of FOOL presidential
> > candidates crisscrossing the country to press-the-flesh with typically
> > apathetic voters.  Making unkeepable promises to those same disparate
> > voters borders on bribery.  ï¿½Vote for ME, and I will do this for you!�
> > is the promise that got Obama elected (gag).  But never more!  It will
> > only take one or two other public figures, with the strength of
> > character of Donald Trump, to �fire the SECOND shot heard round the
> > world.�  ï¿½Revolt�, Dick Morris!  ï¿½Revolt�, Bernie Goldberg!  ï¿½Revolt�,
> > Rick Santorum!  ï¿½Revolt�, Sarah Palin!  ï¿½Revolt� all true American
> > patriots who are out there!
>
> > It�s appropriate to honor our military on Memorial Day.  I think it
> > would be nice to have a few people be vocal regarding my spending
> > fifteen years of my life Penning and Polishing my New Constitution of
> > the USA.  Over the past few years, I�ve written essays totaling more
> > words than the novel �War and Peace.�  The theme of most of those
> > could be: �Economic doom or Capitalist prosperity�!  Read my book
> > touting the latter cure for our woes.  The simple cures are the best!
>
> > Respectfully submitted,
>
> > � John A. Armistead �  Patriot
>
> > AKA NoEinstein on Google�s sci.physics news group.
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/eb...
>
> --
>
>       Freedom is always illegal!
>
> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we
> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we
> have any possibility of being free.

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Leave Obama Alone and Let Him Eat a Damned Chilidog!

by Snidely Whiplash

It's getting way too stupid for me to tolerate much longer. Barack Obama, my favorite whipping boy, and one who much deserves 99% of the abuse I heap upon him, is not, I repeat not, guilty of every wrong on the planet and to see the news of the weekend of the food pyramid becoming a "plate" and Obama eating a chilidog is becoming not only tiresome but childishly unfair.

In case one was not paying attention, late last week the FDA decided the old food pyramid is no longer applicable and now they will use a "plate" to show the approximate breakdown of the portions of grain, protein, fruits and vegetables one should consume daily. And since the First Lady is all about nutrition poor Barack is rife for ridicule. Frankly it's getting a bit too childish for my juvenile ass to countenance any longer.

Leave the president alone if he wants a Hell burger or a couple chilidogs for Heaven's sake. If being a food Nazi is his wife's thing, fine, let it be. But can't the president at least eat something he enjoys occasionally? He's skinny as a rail, plays basketball and golf regularly and to the eye looks to be in excellent physical shape for a man who will be 50 years old in two months.

Yeah, I know...I am constantly savaging Mr. Obama, but that is for things he actually says, does, supports or does not handle as I personally believe a president should. But this incessant busting on him for the occasional burger or whatever is really petulant and shines negatively upon those making such objections.

Considering all the real things Obama does and does not do for us to fairly and factually criticize, a burger, beer or chilidog is just playing "gotcha," and directed at someone who is not really the one pushing the "eat sprouts" nonsense. The food business is his wife's issue and frankly I know a beaten man when I see one...he gets enough grief at home so let him have a few moments of peace.

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